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redshift factor · Post by **redshift factor** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:20 pm

That's true, but there's no practical way to switch between the channels live in realtime with just a foot controller that I know of. It's also still not going to give Sascha the sort of solution he's looking for.

It's a good technique for other uses though. I have used a similar technique to create a standard dual mic NEAR/FAR mic mix of the same virtual amp, splitting to dual rig at the cab module and using the same cab model on rig B as I'm using on rig A, but with a different mic set to "FAR" instead of "NEAR" as on rig A. Then I panned the cabs hard left and hard right, and sent the left side to one mixer group channel, and the right side to another, and introduce a micro-delay on the FAR group channel with Voxengo Audio Delay to simulate the millisecond time lag in the far mic introduced by the distance. It works great and really adds some realistic 3D space.

It would be cool if IK added an adjustable micro-delay option on the cab page.

smidijack · Post by **smidijack** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:38 pm

The absurdity of a Jimi Hendrix plugin is truly staggering to me. In fact, this clearly illuminates the insanity of all of this "product". If you have a recording medium (tape or disk), workable synth (hard or soft), a guitar or two, an amp and a couple of mics you should be able to do whatever you need to do musically. (In the broader pop sense of course) Anyone who buys a Jimi Hendrix plugin is simply chasing the rabbit, which of course can never be caught. Maybe practicing one's guitar playing might be a better use of one's focus?

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:38 pm

redshift factor wrote:It's a good technique for other uses though. I have used a similar technique to create a standard dual mic NEAR/FAR mic mix of the same virtual amp, splitting to dual rig at the cab module and using the same cab model on rig B as I'm using on rig A, but with a different mic set to "FAR" instead of "NEAR" as on rig A. Then I panned the cabs hard left and hard right, and sent the left side to one mixer group channel, and the right side to another, and introduce a micro-delay on the FAR group channel with Voxengo Audio Delay to simulate the millisecond time lag in the far mic introduced by the distance. It works great and really adds some realistic 3D space.

I never did that using audio delay, but I've done the same trick using the cab ambience which seems to push down the dry signal and bring up the early reflections. Works great.

redshift factor · Post by **redshift factor** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 8:42 pm

I didn't like the cab ambiance. It's mostly unusable.
Anyways, you need to introduce a micro-delay to the far mic's direct signal to put tangible distance between the 2 mics. There's no other way. It can't be done appropriately with just the ambiance slider. The ambiance slider introduces (crappy sounding) room reflections into the mic, but it doesn't delay the direct signal at all. The longer the delay, the further the "distance" to the far mic. I like around 6 to 15 ms.

Keep in mind that sound travels roughly one foot per millisecond. It's pretty straight-forward to calculate your delay from that.

beergeek · Post by **beergeek** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:02 pm

smidijack wrote:The absurdity of a Jimi Hendrix plugin is truly staggering to me. In fact, this clearly illuminates the insanity of all of this "product". If you have a recording medium (tape or disk), workable synth (hard or soft), a guitar or two, an amp and a couple of mics you should be able to do whatever you need to do musically. (In the broader pop sense of course) Anyone who buys a Jimi Hendrix plugin is simply chasing the rabbit, which of course can never be caught. Maybe practicing one's guitar playing might be a better use of one's focus?

Oh like THAT'S gunna work

If I can't buy "Jimi-in-a-plug" what's the point of having money I ask?

redshift factor · Post by **redshift factor** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 9:24 pm

I just realized that in Cubase at least, you don't even need to send to multiple group channels to do the dual mic mix. Voxengo Audio Delay has separate delay time controls for left and right, and separate left and right gain knobs. This and Cubase's stereo dual panner mode is all you need for complete and separate control over the two mic signals within the original stereo audio channel. These two things when used together allow you to delay just one side, set the levels for the two channels independently from one another, and finally, pan as you see fit in the mix, all from within the original audio track where AT2 is inserted. Just pan the cabs hard left and hard right in AT2, then follow AT2 with Voxengo Audio Delay in a subsequent insert on the same audio channel, with the panner set to dual stereo.

Of course you may still wish to deal with each "mic" on its own (mono) mixer channel, like you would with a real amp dual miked through a real mixer, or do further independent processing of the two signals, in which case you'd want to stick with sending the processed signal to two separate (mono) groups.

farlukar · Post by **farlukar** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:54 pm

beergeek wrote:If I can't buy "Jimi-in-a-plug" what's the point of having money I ask?

Buying a cher-effect-in-a-plug?

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Sat Apr 28, 2007 11:57 pm

How about some blues..... my lazy Saturday afternoon jam:

http://www.andras-shimon.com/MUSIC/ChuckBlu.mp3

ezyrider · Post by **ezyrider** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:57 pm

AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™ is Now Available
There is a demo too.
30 of April ?

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:10 pm

ezyrider wrote:AmpliTube Jimi Hendrix™ is Now Available
There is a demo too.
30 of April ?

Just in tiiiiiiiime. Haha. As you can see efforts are being made to try to be more on target for releases. We're doing the same thing with the Sonik Instruments. Our best anyway.

AndrewSimon · Post by **AndrewSimon** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:22 pm

downloading as we speak

redshift factor · Post by **redshift factor** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 7:40 pm

I see system requirements has a new logo that says "XP PC" instead of Windows. It then lists only Windows XP. So I take this to means it doesn't work on Windows Vista?

Squids · Post by **Squids** » Tue May 01, 2007 3:54 pm

redshift factor wrote:I see system requirements has a new logo that says "XP PC" instead of Windows. It then lists only Windows XP. So I take this to means it doesn't work on Windows Vista?

It does work in Vista. I don't think IK has made a public statement about it though but I apparently it does. SampleTank 2.5 will as well which is coming very soon (and a free update for ST2 L and XL users, not bad! Oh we have SampleTank L on sale on www.esoundz.com )

Muzik 4 Machines · Post by **Muzik 4 Machines** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:53 pm

will it allows one to import the stompds and amp into amplitube 2, i would find it bad if i had to run 2 separate plugs jsut to get a fuzz or vibe

redshift factor · Post by **redshift factor** » Tue May 01, 2007 9:54 pm

Squids wrote:It does work in Vista. I don't think IK has made a public statement about it though but I apparently it does. SampleTank 2.5 will as well which is coming very soon

When is the AT2 update that allows ATJH to integrate inside of it coming?

Amplitube 2 Jimi Hendrix RELEASED this month!!!