Soon I will will 'trialing' my Receptor as my primary sound source for the band I play in. I will use it in rehearsals first to unearth any issues which could hinder live performance.
I would like to be able to easily edit plug-ins as we rehearse / practice and for this I want to use a VGA monitor.
I want a rackmountable monitor, but one that has a small enough profile to fit inside my rack case. I know there are various rack-mountable TFT screens available, mainly for server use, but ideally I want a 1U which requires a rack depth (front to back) of no more than 470mm.
Anyone have any advice please??
Portable monitor solution required for Receptor
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- KVRist
- 76 posts since 17 Jun, 2003 from USA (Washington, DC)
Given editing is easiest with a monitor, keyboard and mouse, have you considered an inexpensive laptop?
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Nah - a laptop can't keep up with the Receptor. The ideal solution is one of the 8" TFT screens that have touch-screen capabilities. But Receptor doesn't support the touch-screen part yet (plus its resolution is higher than the monitor, so text is not always legible.)
Hving waid that, I have an 8" monitor that works great for me in that situation, given that I know my plugs well enough to extrapoplate what I can't clearly read. But it does require a keyboard and mouse, I use a wireless mouse (and should do the same with the keyboard, but at this moment, it's plag and pray.)
Also, if you take the time to get to know the front panel, you CAN make adjustments there, but it's a pain...
The rack-mount KVM solutions are really expensive - around $700 for the ones I've seen - way out of range, IMHO.
Hving waid that, I have an 8" monitor that works great for me in that situation, given that I know my plugs well enough to extrapoplate what I can't clearly read. But it does require a keyboard and mouse, I use a wireless mouse (and should do the same with the keyboard, but at this moment, it's plag and pray.)
Also, if you take the time to get to know the front panel, you CAN make adjustments there, but it's a pain...
The rack-mount KVM solutions are really expensive - around $700 for the ones I've seen - way out of range, IMHO.
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- KVRist
- 155 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from London
Soundsmith I'm curious, what makes u say a laptop couldn't keep up? I use one. Sometimes you do have IP problems but you get to know your way around these things. I think a Laptop is the most convenient way, no, keyboards no monitors no cables other than an ethernet cable and it sits fine on top of a rack.
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Philo, I am running streaming samples from multiple processor-intensive and hard-disk-access intensive sources - Colossus, B4ii, Trilogy, Lounge Lizard 3, PlugSound Free, OP-X, FM7. MinimogueVA and sfz plus a bunch of 10-band graphic eqs, a master reverb and comp/limiter. I have real-time 'immediate' (under 2 seconds) access to any of ther instruments, and each has at least 8 presets or new sounds I can access instantly. While I can only usually have three actually producing sound at any one time (bass, keys and lead) the availability of all that sound is easily triple what I was able to get from my 2.4G P4 Northwood, 2G or RAM, 80G 5400RPM hard drive.
If all you need is one piano, or maybe piano, electric piano and organ, you can get away with a laptop, but for this much real-time power and sheer number of available options, you can't beat Receptor. I can load this dense, elaborate setup for live gigs, and turn around and load RMX with a couple of synths and have a looper factory ready to play a rave, then load another multi for designing new-age pads and background sounds. This is way more flexible than a laptop with VStack. And I seldom have IP issues, everything in my studio has a sequential fixed IP address, 192.168.1.101 to 121, no problems.
If all you need is one piano, or maybe piano, electric piano and organ, you can get away with a laptop, but for this much real-time power and sheer number of available options, you can't beat Receptor. I can load this dense, elaborate setup for live gigs, and turn around and load RMX with a couple of synths and have a looper factory ready to play a rave, then load another multi for designing new-age pads and background sounds. This is way more flexible than a laptop with VStack. And I seldom have IP issues, everything in my studio has a sequential fixed IP address, 192.168.1.101 to 121, no problems.
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
Perhaps there is some miscommunications here.
Dasher, I think Philo is talking about using a laptop 'in addition to Receptor', in order to run Receptor Remote. The laptop would serve as a 'all-in-one' keyboard, mouse, and Display interface to control Recepter live (eg for switching multis, volumes, ....).
This is an interesting way to go, I think. Current cheap laptops can be had for $500.00 or less.
Regards,
Kevin L
Dasher, I think Philo is talking about using a laptop 'in addition to Receptor', in order to run Receptor Remote. The laptop would serve as a 'all-in-one' keyboard, mouse, and Display interface to control Recepter live (eg for switching multis, volumes, ....).
This is an interesting way to go, I think. Current cheap laptops can be had for $500.00 or less.
Regards,
Kevin L
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Oh... If that's the case, could be a viabke option - the last rack-mount keyn=boad/montiro I saw in the Markertek catalg was $1300 - a laptop would sure beat that...
But I'd be happier with Linux drivers for my 8" touch-screen!
But I'd be happier with Linux drivers for my 8" touch-screen!
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- KVRer
- 21 posts since 26 Aug, 2006 from Melbourne
If it helps, I'm planning to get an old IBM Thinkpad X-series for a dedicated Receptor interface. I'll install Linux/FreeBSD and set up X-Windows to load the Receptor interface and nothing else. When I get it working I'll post my method somewhere.
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
Hi Paul,
Good Luck. I don't think I've heard of anyone redirecting the X-Windows Display.
I also don't think I've heard of anyone interfacing to a Linux system (via VNC). I would imagine that the Receptor Remote application is probably a superset of VNC, so this might be possible.
Let us know how it goes. It might be nice to have a stable Linux option for hosting.
Regards,
Kevin L
Good Luck. I don't think I've heard of anyone redirecting the X-Windows Display.
I also don't think I've heard of anyone interfacing to a Linux system (via VNC). I would imagine that the Receptor Remote application is probably a superset of VNC, so this might be possible.
Let us know how it goes. It might be nice to have a stable Linux option for hosting.
Regards,
Kevin L
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
Why go thru all that? Just ethernet link - no software or hardware needed but a straight-thru CAT5 cable. Don't even need 5e...
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- KVRist
- 155 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from London
Hey Soundsmith as Looneytunes said I was talking about using a laptop as the main interface to the receptor. Also, I like the sound of your setup Soundsmith, which version of receptor are you running cause mine gets clicks and pops with just one instance of Kontakt, Atmosphere, Stylus and epiano. Kontakt and Stylus are each using multiple outs Stylus has about 4 outputs Kontakt has two, (one for my piano patch and the other for my strings). This setup produces clicks and sometimes the beat slows down cause the CPU maxes out. Perhaps we can start another thread for this?thesoundsmith wrote:Oh... If that's the case, could be a viabke option - the last rack-mount keyn=boad/montiro I saw in the Markertek catalg was $1300 - a laptop would sure beat that...
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
I just looked at my last post. Man, my typing is bad...
There is a thread about this box here:http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... timate+rig
The actual patch described is a couple of revisions past, but there is no significant change except replacing MrRay with Lounge Lizard. Other changes are kind of equivalent in usage.
I view the whole configuration concept as a work in progress - there are always more custom multis for various purposes. Sometimes they don't work, and you try a different approach. Sometimes they fit together like the fingers of one hand. Anyway, check out that thread, and if you want to start one to continue this, go ahead, I'll join in (sorry for hijacking the thread, AJones
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There is a thread about this box here:http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... timate+rig
The actual patch described is a couple of revisions past, but there is no significant change except replacing MrRay with Lounge Lizard. Other changes are kind of equivalent in usage.
I view the whole configuration concept as a work in progress - there are always more custom multis for various purposes. Sometimes they don't work, and you try a different approach. Sometimes they fit together like the fingers of one hand. Anyway, check out that thread, and if you want to start one to continue this, go ahead, I'll join in (sorry for hijacking the thread, AJones
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