If you have a patch with a longer release time, then in mono modes the releases would be cut off to play the next note that came along, as we only have one voice, as you mentioned above. Depending on the patch settings, this could be a big effect, especially when taking into account filter envelopes for each note as well.
Some envelopes also "climb" in various ways - Minimoogs do for instance, I'm not sure offhand whether Zebra does (I don't think so), but other synths like impOSCar do this as well, as this may also affect things depending on the voice settings.
I'm not sure offhand whether the legato mode would come into play as arpeggiated notes probably can't overlap anyway and thereby move between notes staying in the sustain phase without retriggering the attack, but I'm not sure from memory what happens when you tie steps together and change the pitch without going and looking...
Best thing to do is have a play, really, and see what the bhaviour is. I have to say I personally haven't found that only having a poly arp mode has caused me problems - I never really even stopped to think about it before, to be honest...
Preset Exchange Area!
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Hm, thanks again, beej. I'll think about this. But maybe I'm just not enough of a synth expert to even realize there's such issues.
Btw, so far I'm still sure this could probably be solved somehow using the arp modulation, but I might be totally wrong. For the umpteenth time, it's a tough challenge for me to even realize what this is all about
Btw, so far I'm still sure this could probably be solved somehow using the arp modulation, but I might be totally wrong. For the umpteenth time, it's a tough challenge for me to even realize what this is all about
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- u-he
- Topic Starter
- 30213 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
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- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
I'm "sure this could probably" not be solved in this waySascha Franck wrote:...so far I'm still sure this could probably be solved somehow using the arp modulation
(sorry Sascha, I'm feeling more than a bit pugnaceous today!
)Zebra2 could do with a mono/poly button in the arpeggiator tab.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Fwiw, I think, that by now, I sort of understand the problem.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from Berlin
OK, Factory Patches from the Virus, Bank A:
http://www.hanshafner.de/quickupload/HH ... resets.zip
Lemme know whaddaya think!
http://www.hanshafner.de/quickupload/HH ... resets.zip
Lemme know whaddaya think!
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 12 Sep, 2006
Beautiful!
For some reason it doesn't sound QUITE as good as the first bank (maybe I'm just delusional) but slap light external effects on it and they come to life very, very nicely!
Thanks very much!
EDIT: The XY controls are very, very, very nice too! So much more playable tweaking those on-the-fly...
For some reason it doesn't sound QUITE as good as the first bank (maybe I'm just delusional) but slap light external effects on it and they come to life very, very nicely!
Thanks very much!
EDIT: The XY controls are very, very, very nice too! So much more playable tweaking those on-the-fly...
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- KVRist
- 370 posts since 13 Jul, 2003 from Berlin
Yeah, this time I remembered to put it into my initialize patch so I wouldn't have to do it all the time. That's why they're all the same, but I think this setup is rather clever. 
*padding myself on the back*
*padding myself on the back*-
- KVRAF
- 4229 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Right here, in front of my computer...
Yes - that was essential for me too when working on Transmission.
Of course, each individual patch has individual requirements, but I created a bunch of default setups and I also relied on a few perl scripts to copy sections of the H2P files between patches, which was also a lifesaver.
But still everything needed to be tweaked manually - but it's really cool when people include XY stuff like this, because you can quickly tailer each sound to your own tastes, even if you don't really know what's going on under the hood.
It's why I included specific XY setups in all the patch templates too, as it takes 90% of the work out of remembering to add them into your own patches, when using templates as starting points.
Cool patches BTW, nicely added to the huge ever-growing pulsating collection that rules from the centre of our u-he world...
Of course, each individual patch has individual requirements, but I created a bunch of default setups and I also relied on a few perl scripts to copy sections of the H2P files between patches, which was also a lifesaver.
But still everything needed to be tweaked manually - but it's really cool when people include XY stuff like this, because you can quickly tailer each sound to your own tastes, even if you don't really know what's going on under the hood.
It's why I included specific XY setups in all the patch templates too, as it takes 90% of the work out of remembering to add them into your own patches, when using templates as starting points.
Cool patches BTW, nicely added to the huge ever-growing pulsating collection that rules from the centre of our u-he world...
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- KVRian
- 743 posts since 14 Apr, 2004
As i never owned i don't know the original virus sound, but these patches played from Zebra are great!
I've tried them with arpeggiator and chords plugs in Ableton...they sounded very fat and large sometimes!
Only one thing, some patches, like 072, have an excessive volume compared to the others, i've played about 5-10 patches with this "over-volume".
Anyway thank you for the patch-share!
I've tried them with arpeggiator and chords plugs in Ableton...they sounded very fat and large sometimes!
Only one thing, some patches, like 072, have an excessive volume compared to the others, i've played about 5-10 patches with this "over-volume".
Anyway thank you for the patch-share!
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- KVRist
- 71 posts since 12 Sep, 2006
Sure you want to say that on a public forum?beej wrote:...huge ever-growing pulsating collection that rules from the centre of our u-he world...
(Yes Urs, we love you!)
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- KVRian
- 685 posts since 7 Mar, 2007 from FRANCE
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- KVRAF
- 4141 posts since 11 Aug, 2006 from Texas
Thanks Jack! I'll update web links to presets topic with these.JacK_SoliuM wrote:hi,
some new FilterscapeVA presets!
there are 117 patches -> fx, noiz and others...
JSolium VA
JS
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- KVRian
- 685 posts since 7 Mar, 2007 from FRANCE
bmrzycki wrote: Thanks Jack! I'll update web links to presets topic with these.
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from switzerland
i have updated my presetbank to 118 presets.
http://www.solarsoundnetwork.org/2.0/archive/
to hear some of the patches in context come to this festival
http://gaggalacka.de/
http://www.solarsoundnetwork.org/2.0/archive/
to hear some of the patches in context come to this festival
http://gaggalacka.de/