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Caleb · Post by **Caleb** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:12 am

jens wrote: overall I love Jorgen's work, his generosity, his ideas, etc. - but with stuff like that I'm just asking myself: 'what the hell was he thinking when he coded that?' - I mean an inconsistency so blatantly obvious - and you can't get used to it because when you're working on a song you have to constantly change between the editor and the sequencer - your brain just doesn't have a real chance to adjust to this inconsistency - how does stuff like that find its way into the code in the first place?

Agree 100%.
Weren't we having these discussions in eXT1 days?

Regards
Caleb

insertpizhere · Post by **insertpizhere** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:04 am

jens wrote:- the loop-locators don't snap according to the sequencer's snap-settings

- the loop-locators still don't have the old behaviour back

i had forgotten that these two actually worked in the first alpha release (1-dec-06). i miss them too.

iU · Post by iU » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:09 am

le_NEKO wrote:i think it suit the theme :

- the horizontal scrollbar in sequencer.

I really don't get how it is supposed to be usable when working on a standard near 4:00 project.
I suppose it is bug... well i hope it is... please tell me it is just a bug. (in fact the behavior in ext1 was pretty strange too, source of my fears)
;P

Actually, xt2 behaves exactly like xt1.

Hope Jorgen sees this one as it is quite annoying...

druid · Post by **druid** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:27 am

+1 to the scrolling problem, it weirded me out when I first saw it, and if I were of a scroller (and didn't use right+click drag) this would annoy me a lot.

larm · Post by **larm** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:37 am

- if you are zoomed in close, render to wav THEN after the rendering process the cursor jumps back to the start (also I think sometimes waaay out to the right) instead of remaining at the zoomed in portion

soma · Post by **soma** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 3:21 am

As far as the scrollbar goes I'd like a small area with a picture of the whole song in the sequencer like this: (same for clips)

big pict here
the box shows what is zoomed in on and you can drag the edges or the whole box to control how much of the song and where in the song is shown in the sequencer

One thing I do miss from xt1 is the mouse wheel zoom. Perhaps you could use the zoom dot to scroll and zoom at the same time? Over is scroll and down is zoom.

SharkAttack · Post by **SharkAttack** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:06 am

Hold the CTRL for mouse wheel zoom.

soma · Post by **soma** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:35 am

ah... keep forgetting that one.

SharkAttack · Post by **SharkAttack** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:48 am

I'm just checking the actions in the setup.
You can also zoom with the + - keys.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:48 am

soma wrote:As far as the scrollbar goes I'd like a small area with a picture of the whole song in the sequencer like this: (same for clips)

big pict here

please no navigator view (or if so only optional) - imo it's only of use for all those sequencers who confuse you (so that you don't know where in the song you are) in the first place! The main reason I use eXT is that I don't get lost.

Sturgeon · Post by **Sturgeon** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:53 am

jens wrote:
soma wrote:As far as the scrollbar goes I'd like a small area with a picture of the whole song in the sequencer like this: (same for clips)

big pict here
please no navigator view (or if so only optional) - imo it's only of use for all those sequencers who confuse you (so that you don't know where in the song you are) in the first place! The main reason I use eXT is that I don't get lost.

Agree +10!

Navigator view = nightmare waste of space!

s.

Former Pharaoh · Post by **Former Pharaoh** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:04 am

Sturgeon wrote:
Navigator view = nightmare waste of space!

s.

That's the expense if one wants to avoid zooming in/out. With a navigator, you can 'jump' to any point of the song quickly since no zooming is required.
I personally make use of it within Live but i can live w/o it as well.

So yeah....+1 to optional.

jens · Post by **jens** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:12 am

Former Pharaoh wrote:
That's the expense if one wants to avoid zooming in/out. With a navigator, you can 'jump' to any point of the song quickly since no zooming is required.
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in eXT 1.4 there are marker-tracks for this which are imo a much more elegant, comprehensive, complete, flexible and easy to use solution.

Also it's much more in line with eXT's 'workflow.

Former Pharaoh · Post by **Former Pharaoh** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:23 am

Yeah the marker 'menu' is pretty slick i just haven't utilized it much. I just zoom in/out.
What i REALLY would like is mouse up/down zooms in/out and mouse left/right scrolls (ABleton's method).
It's by far the best workflow IMO.

MRT · Post by **MRT** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:23 am

Having a problem dragging and dropping midi files from Linn Plug's RMI4.
Sometimes it works correctly but most often it drops an empty file.

On the up side it drops where you place it without creating a new track and a tempo track.

Miss the right/left click to set positions on the time line
Implementing (Scrolling)functions for tilt wheel mice would be nice
What happened to copy and paste in the sequencer?

Overall I'd say this is a very good update. Seems like there's a lot of stuff focused on working with loops.

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