Difference between revision B and C?
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- KVRer
- 5 posts since 9 Jun, 2007
Can anyone tell me?
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 9 Jun, 2007
OK, thanks. That doesn't immediately mean much to me but I'll look into it.
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 22 Apr, 2005 from Nashville, TN USA
check out the information on this page: http://www.museresearch.com/receptor.php?r=upgrades
Upgrade Receptor Rev. A or B to Receptor Rev. C
This upgrade includes the following:
* New Motherboard
* Processor
* System Fan and Cooling system
* Power supply
* Transfer your existing Hard Drive and Ram to the new system
* Shipping in One Direction in Continental US
(All others, we will charge our actual shipping cost)
Benefits:
The Rev C design includes a new Turion AMD 64 processor with HyperTransport, a faster 400Mhz RAM bus, and a 1-GHz system bus, resulting in up to a 20% improvement in performance. Additionally, the new processor features AMD's PowerNow power management technology, reducing power consumption, therefore allowing the system to run cooler and quieter than the previous Receptor versions of hardware.
Upgrade Receptor Rev. A or B to Receptor Rev. C
This upgrade includes the following:
* New Motherboard
* Processor
* System Fan and Cooling system
* Power supply
* Transfer your existing Hard Drive and Ram to the new system
* Shipping in One Direction in Continental US
(All others, we will charge our actual shipping cost)
Benefits:
The Rev C design includes a new Turion AMD 64 processor with HyperTransport, a faster 400Mhz RAM bus, and a 1-GHz system bus, resulting in up to a 20% improvement in performance. Additionally, the new processor features AMD's PowerNow power management technology, reducing power consumption, therefore allowing the system to run cooler and quieter than the previous Receptor versions of hardware.
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Bryan@MuseResearch Bryan@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9067
- MUSEician
- 618 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Silicon Valley
Whoa... Hybernation, you rock!
I'll add an empirical element here about the difference, at least what customers are reporting to me. Both are really fine tools, but the Rev C has a couple of performance improvements in general and really substantial improvements to the thermal performance of the unit.
There isn't a computer out there that is rated for operation above 95 degrees farenheit (that I know of) and when people are playing their Receptors in 110 degree heat at Cricket Center in Phoenix in August, having a very cool running processor is highly advisable! (the specific concert experience I'm referring to was the Goo Goo Dolls last summer... it was easily 115 on stage under lights, so with the units stacked on top of each other in a rack, I imagine it was hell on earth from a Receptor perspective... I was sweating in the audience myself, unsure of whether it was because it was so damn hot out or whether I was worried about the Receptors shutting down to stop themselves from spontaneously combusting!!! interesting side note: they recently chose to upgrade those units to Rev C)
The newer Rev C hardware runs so cool that the top of the unit (which is Aluminum, and is designed to throw off some of the processor heat to the atmosphere through convection... aren't we clever?) barely gets above room temperature, where as in the Rev B design the top of the unit can get quite warm. Not as warm as the bottom of my laptop mind you, but plenty hot.
The Rev C design has so much thermal margin that you can actually disable the system fan (don't do this, it will void your warranty) and the system won't over-heat even running full blast!
Other observable things besides substantially lower heat and reduced power consumption (always a good thing, we're pretty green around here and are avid recyclers... what can you say... everyone in Northern California is a tree-hugging hippie at heart) is tighter overall operation, better performance with samplers (faster RAM is the reason for this, as well as the increased L2 cache) and the unit is also quieter as a result of quieter fans in the new cooling solution in Rev C.
If you own a Rev B, please do realize that it is a perfect usable piece of kit, but if having the latest greatest is really important to you, we do offer the upgrade path that Hybernation music spoke of...
Now if I can only convince Apple to ugprade my 2 year old ibook to the latest greatest... but alas, I dream on.
Cheers
Groovology
I'll add an empirical element here about the difference, at least what customers are reporting to me. Both are really fine tools, but the Rev C has a couple of performance improvements in general and really substantial improvements to the thermal performance of the unit.
There isn't a computer out there that is rated for operation above 95 degrees farenheit (that I know of) and when people are playing their Receptors in 110 degree heat at Cricket Center in Phoenix in August, having a very cool running processor is highly advisable! (the specific concert experience I'm referring to was the Goo Goo Dolls last summer... it was easily 115 on stage under lights, so with the units stacked on top of each other in a rack, I imagine it was hell on earth from a Receptor perspective... I was sweating in the audience myself, unsure of whether it was because it was so damn hot out or whether I was worried about the Receptors shutting down to stop themselves from spontaneously combusting!!! interesting side note: they recently chose to upgrade those units to Rev C)
The newer Rev C hardware runs so cool that the top of the unit (which is Aluminum, and is designed to throw off some of the processor heat to the atmosphere through convection... aren't we clever?) barely gets above room temperature, where as in the Rev B design the top of the unit can get quite warm. Not as warm as the bottom of my laptop mind you, but plenty hot.
The Rev C design has so much thermal margin that you can actually disable the system fan (don't do this, it will void your warranty) and the system won't over-heat even running full blast!
Other observable things besides substantially lower heat and reduced power consumption (always a good thing, we're pretty green around here and are avid recyclers... what can you say... everyone in Northern California is a tree-hugging hippie at heart) is tighter overall operation, better performance with samplers (faster RAM is the reason for this, as well as the increased L2 cache) and the unit is also quieter as a result of quieter fans in the new cooling solution in Rev C.
If you own a Rev B, please do realize that it is a perfect usable piece of kit, but if having the latest greatest is really important to you, we do offer the upgrade path that Hybernation music spoke of...
Now if I can only convince Apple to ugprade my 2 year old ibook to the latest greatest... but alas, I dream on.
Cheers
Groovology
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
Now if I can only convince Apple to ugprade my 2 year old ibook to the latest greatest... but alas, I dream on.
But this is an excellent point - it is an amazing benefit to us musical instrument consumers that both Receptor Software and Hardware are being offered as upgrades.
It is a joy to not take a hit on investment, every time you turn around and sell an instrument on ebay - or add to a garbage dump somewhere. By preserving the form factor and offering upgrades - Muse is extending value of the platform over time. Kudos for the philosophy!
Again, adding to the myth of us green, tree-huggin Californians ...
And Bryan, I've reported this here before, but I've gigged in 117 degrees F (in Hollister during that heatwave last summer) - very impressive!
Regards,
Kevin L
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 9 Jun, 2007
Thanks very much, everyone. Very helpful!
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- KVRist
- 413 posts since 5 Dec, 2005
Thankfully as Im in the UK and half of us are currently under six feet of water keeping my Rev B Receptor cool in the UK is quite easy.groovology wrote:There isn't a computer out there that is rated for operation above 95 degrees farenheit (that I know of) and when people are playing their Receptors in 110 degree heat at Cricket Center in Phoenix in August, having a very cool running processor is highly advisable!.
Cheers
Groovology
Seriously though. Being from the UK, it would be quite expensive to do a C upgrade for me, and as we are'nt getting temperatures like what you guys in the US are getting, Im going to wait until there's more hardware improvements before I ship my Rev B back. I guess the biggest wait for me is increased memory capacity. Im really happy with my Rev B, but I don't push it like a lot of the more pro users do. Im happy using Kontakt 2 with a couple of instances, and minimonsta
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- KVRist
- 155 posts since 3 Sep, 2005 from London
I'm with C3 on this as well, it is quite a costly upgrade, for marginal increase. However, I do believe that my receptor has at times packed up for a mixture of reasons, amongst those reasons is probably overheating, because I drive it hard with all my disk streaming samples. The CPU is always near full usage. So I guess I have things to gain from the upgrade. But here's a suggestion would muse offer a DIY upgrade pack?