Automatic Plug-in Delay Compensation???
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
Hmmm,
Are you in the right forum?
This is the forum for the Receptor VST player. Typically, Plug-in delay compensation is a software algorithm associated with a DAW/Sequencer. A sequencer uses audio delay information about a plugin to 'shift' midi information earlier - such that the resulting audio appears to fall in-time with other audio/MIDI activity.
There is a general latency associated with audio buffer size that Receptor has. A sequencer on another computer can use this buffer size information to compute delay-compensation. The standard DAW/sequencers should be able to do this with Receptor's Uniwire plugin.
Hope this explanation helps, Regards,
Kevin L
Are you in the right forum?
This is the forum for the Receptor VST player. Typically, Plug-in delay compensation is a software algorithm associated with a DAW/Sequencer. A sequencer uses audio delay information about a plugin to 'shift' midi information earlier - such that the resulting audio appears to fall in-time with other audio/MIDI activity.
There is a general latency associated with audio buffer size that Receptor has. A sequencer on another computer can use this buffer size information to compute delay-compensation. The standard DAW/sequencers should be able to do this with Receptor's Uniwire plugin.
Hope this explanation helps, Regards,
Kevin L
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 7 posts since 13 Jul, 2007
Delay compensation is not just for midi. If I have 4 audio channels, each with plug-ins, without compensation they will leave the device at different speeds. For example, say I'm tracking a band. The vocalist needs lots of plugs, whereas the other parts do not. If I then feed a monitor system, the vocalist will not be in sync with the other musicians. Plug-ins such as linear phase eq's, or other mastering type plug-ins often have significant delay. Most major DAW's are capable of this syncronization.
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- KVRian
- 691 posts since 13 May, 2004 from Silicon Valley
This is sort of my point. Receptor is not a DAW. It is simply a VSTfx/VSTi host. You would typically get this form of syncronization from DAW that Receptor is connected to.
Regards,
Kevin L
Regards,
Kevin L
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 22 Apr, 2005 from Nashville, TN USA
When used with Uniwire, Receptor does "report" it's latency so any VST host that has delay compensation can do it's thing.
When using MIDI, I have driven it HARD with 7-8 channels of stuff including drums, and it does a good job of not getting sloppy. In fact, the GUI response degrades long before you run out of CPU, which is a good thing.
When using MIDI, I have driven it HARD with 7-8 channels of stuff including drums, and it does a good job of not getting sloppy. In fact, the GUI response degrades long before you run out of CPU, which is a good thing.
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- KVRist
- 96 posts since 2 May, 2004 from USA
[quote="looneytunes"]This is sort of my point. Receptor is not a DAW. It is simply a VSTfx/VSTi host. You would typically get this form of syncronization from DAW that Receptor is connected to.
Regards,
Kevin L[/quote]
YEP,
I second that.
the Muse Receptor is A "host" yes...but its NOT capturing ANY "info" except "MIDI Clock", sorry.
Regards,
Kevin L[/quote]
YEP,
I second that.
the Muse Receptor is A "host" yes...but its NOT capturing ANY "info" except "MIDI Clock", sorry.
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- KVRist
- 197 posts since 23 Jan, 2006 from Ontario, Canada
This is a very good point, and it makes sense for live use of Receptor. Sounds like something that could be on the to-do list. For now, you might have to add a delay VST in the other channels, something like Voxengo Sample Delay.satox wrote:The vocalist needs lots of plugs, whereas the other parts do not. If I then feed a monitor system, the vocalist will not be in sync with the other musicians.
But this latency is the communications latency, not the latency of the plugins loaded in any particular Receptor channel.Hybernation wrote:When used with Uniwire, Receptor does "report" it's latency
Greg Holmes
Retailer: Acoustic Image, BassLab, Muse Receptor, MIDIjet, Rayzoon Jamstix, and more...
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Retailer: Acoustic Image, BassLab, Muse Receptor, MIDIjet, Rayzoon Jamstix, and more...
http://www.ghservices.com/
http://www.gregholmes.com/

