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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:23 pm

PhilMuller wrote:Are you getting any closer? Zebra-2 is the best synth-plugin I have ever heard and am dying to get it running on Receptor! Zebra-2 blows Massive and everything else away. I need it! Please hurray, I am dying here!

I'm just starting to merge the Improvements from the Mac source files into the Win sources. Then I'll work on the registration scheme on Receptor (must relocate the auth file just like I did the others). In 3 hours I'm going to a birthday event, so it won't be ready for testing before tomorrow I guess... (and let's just hope there's no further distraction... I want this off my desk

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Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sat Jul 14, 2007 3:39 pm

Okay, I'm almost there. I just have to update the installer for the receptorized file layout and then we can check it out... possibly tomorrow, if grrrl lets me work

One possible problem though is, my latest stuff needs a new "signed" runtime library (what formerly was msvcr71.dll)... hope this works on Receptor

Fingers crossed,

Urs

Paul David · Post by **Paul David** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 12:40 am

Awesome! Urs, I'll happily test it for you if you need, I know my way around Linux. Limited demo of course

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:19 pm

Hi Urs,
I'm here too, ready to help you testing Z2 as it was for Triple Cheese on Receptor (ready to buy since from months).
Ciao,
P.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:39 pm

Hey, I'm currently facing choleric attacks as some recent changes don't pan out well on VST/Windows...

Some of the nice improvements I added to the AU stuff just won't work properly in VST...

I guess I need a couple more hours...

Later,

Urs

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 5:24 pm

For the brave:

http://www.u-he.com/Zebra22b1Win.zip

This one contains an installation option into just Vstplugins directory, including presets etc. - making it pretty much as receptorized as 3C. The auth file and midimap shall now work...

The download also contains the required Microsoft library. Hope this works on Receptor...

Yours exhaustedly,

Urs

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:45 pm

Where's the Microsoft library?
PGi

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 10:57 pm

nl3 wrote:Where's the Microsoft library?
PGi

Dammit... forgot to put it in...

http://www.u-he.com/vcredist.zip

Must update tomorrow...

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:04 pm

I downloaded it from Microsoft and installed, but the Zebra2.ddl file doesn't run, either on winXp or Receptor, in wich Zebra 2.2 failed to install, Zebralette is installed but doesn't work...
Furthermore, it'isn't possible to browse to a receptor's folder from the Z2 installer from windows, so i have to install in receptorized mode fion winxp first and then drop the folder containing the above installation up to receptor, but the included Zebra2.dll file doesn't work, either if opened on a winxp vst host (eg. Minihost) either on my receptor.
PGi

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:15 pm

nl3 wrote:I downloaded it from Microsoft and installed, but the Zebra2.ddl file doesn't run, either on winXp or Receptor, in wich Zebra 2.2 failed to install, Zebralette is installed but doesn't work...
Furthermore, it'isn't possible to browse to a receptor's folder from the Z2 installer from windows, so i have to install in receptorized mode fion winxp first and then drop the folder containing the above installation up to receptor, but the included Zebra2.dll file doesn't work, either if opened on a winxp vst host (eg. Minihost) either on my receptor.
PGi

Hmmm... will look into it tomorrow...

As said, it's for the brave...

it should definately work on WinXP tho...

D'oh...

Later,

Urs

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:25 pm

Bye, Urs, take a night to rest a bit.
I'll get another or two tials on it...
Thanks for now!
PGi

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:25 am

I later succeded to run Z2.2 on windows, just installing your vcredist file on my pc. Anyway it isn't possible (i suppose) to install it on R from standard windows installer, so copied msvcr80 (reported as needed by Z2 from R's system report log) to 'C:\windows\system' folder on R, where needed windows dll libraries are occasionally stored during vsts installations or manual copied from R users when those extra dll are needed, as made some other times by me to make one or two vst running; then restarted R and dropped the entire folder from windows z2.2 folder to "Unsupported Plugins" on R, but when clicked on "Install" button on R, a popup appears showing "r6034 an application has made an attemp to load the C runtime library incorrectly. please contact the application's support team for more infomration".
It seems that Zebra2.dll searchs for msvcr80.dll or other libraries and related "manifest file" but not finding it or them.
As a simple musician, i suppose Z2 needs to know where to find and load its libraries, but the King of programming are you, dear Urs...!
Hoping all of my trials to be useful to you.
NL3 - PGi

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:01 am

Hi, thing is, there's no "just msvcr80.dll", there are dozens of these, all with their own signature (manifest).

Microsoft's original concept of "sharing dynamic load libraries among applications" has led to lots of incompatibilities due to different versions being used. So now they abandon the concept and make you have several of these...

Normally it's easy to have them compiled into the plugin's .dll. Not so for me, because I need functions that are only in the external lib, for instance because my stuff wouldn't work properly in the German version of Sonar if I couldn't revert their localization flags.

There must be a way to install the msvcr that I distribute...

There must be more developers using DevStudio 2005 and external Runtime Libs, no?

Cheers,

Urs

nl3 · Post by **nl3** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:50 am

HI,
i don't know were external Runtime Libs must resides, R has a folder named as 'windows' and there there are few subfolders (eg. 'system? and 'system32') having permission of writing, so there's no problem to write there, it's a "permitted" user area on R hd. (path: C:\windows\system and system32).
On these two folder, it seems to reside all windows runtime libs, sure there aren't others in the entire R windows folder.
Anyway, i suppose, there's no possibility on R to launch an app like a windows installer, but probably try to copy libs dlls where they might be.

PGi

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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:13 am

Interesting... I looked into my stuff, I've got a Vista here and it's all in Windows/winxs/ and then reallllly long filenames...

However, I'm kind of taking a day off and investigate chances to replace the runtime functions by ones I roll my own. It seems to me that life is gonna be much better if I got rid of teh external lib.

Btw... do plugins that use Microsoft's GDI+ graphics library work on Receptor?

Urs

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