KVR Audio

Sickle · Post by **Sickle** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:50 am

Killvehicle wrote:But my point was definitely different skins CAN make an influence on how I work. I used to never think that, but I'm slowly realizing it...

You better they do..all the difference in the world to me, and saying that's an open invitation for all manner of jerk offs to come in here and say the exact opposite, so it's really your choice.

z3ta+ · Post by **z3ta+** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 11:32 am

1820 not 1818m is your sound card. Patch mix is pretty complicated for a novice. I'd never managed it without a help of an experienced friend. There are many options and there schould be some more to be added. But The EMU let us down many cos' they discontinued this product. I was on the way to continue with them to buy another product of EMU: PC Card for laptop actually DSP card, but without a outbreak box, cos' I allready have one from 1820m but no compatibillity. You have to buy external module once again. The same LAN-Ethernet connector and lead-no way. No advice which pin or wire to disconnect, to rewire... There is Fire Wire port on a 1820m Box. No reply from EMU how to connect it to a laptop, no drivers either,...EMU is under Creative now and seems they haven't much to play their own way anymore. 1616 for laptop users is atractive for the new buyers on the globe not for the trusty costumers expetcing ever better service and products from the comp. I won't claim for the other companies at this place but there are really many of them to compete.
Best regards

Oskar www.unre.org
(computer electronic musician(on a hardship..))

whyterabbyt · Post by **whyterabbyt** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:29 pm

z3ta+ wrote:1820 not 1818m is your sound card.

Well, actually the 1010 is the PCI 'soundcard', and the 1818/1818M are the models of breakout box with the additional ADC/DAC stages on it. They're sold together as the 1820 or 1820M, or, if the 1010 is supplied with an 0202, as a 1212. So the 1820 is not really 'a soundcard', its 'a specific combination of the soundcard and convertors'. The 1010 can actually be used without either the 1818/m or 0202 I believe, since it has SPDIF and ADAT connectors.
But hey, until you got (incorrectly) pedantic, everyone else knew what we were talking about. Ho hum.

EMU is under Creative now and seems they haven't much to play their own way anymore.

They've been part of Creative for years. Since well before the 1820 came out. That's why the original Soundblaster Live used an EMU-designed DSP chip; in fact its the same DSP family as used in the 1820.

z3ta+ · Post by **z3ta+** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 10:13 pm

OK In the future I'll try to be exact in terms, numbers and models of discussion cos' the other public like to read as well.
I would like to stay at the company for a while. They're not bad. Hope they'll read those posts and appreciate some demands, ideas and needs of their costumers in the future.
Oskar

The Unsigned · Post by **The Unsigned** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 10:14 am

Did you say rock solid E-MU 1820m Vista drivers? Where? If so, please show me them! I ran the XP drivers on Vista Ultimate 64-bit for a while, it was a hassle pressing F8 every time you boot up; from whence you'd disable driver signature enforcing, but I put up with that. Plus the sound kept jumping from speaker to speaker, sometimes no sounds were made at all, I tried to put up with that. The drivers were solid WHEN they worked, but that was the problem; they were so unpredictable and damn right annoying. I waited 4-5 months for beta drivers, they were delayed and delayed and frickin delayed again. Finally they arrive and I think "yeah", ten minutes after installing them I realise they're exactly the frickin same as the XP drivers except I don't have to press F8 on boot, whoopy frickin doo, half a year and I get the same drivers as I was already using. In fact, I get worse drivers than what I was using in the first place, they move from speaker to speaker EVEN MORE. I guess it's my own fault for going with 64-bit Vista isn't it? Even though my whole system runs flawlessly at 64-bit emulating 32-bit (when needed) it seems anything related to E-MU that touches 64-bit (audio-wise) turns to a pile of steaming shite.

Forgive the harshness, but E-MU is becoming a bit of a joke. First they replace the 1820m with an inferior model (EU law I know, but they could have made the 1820m "within the law" and improved it a little; tell me that's the 1616m [bull]), they charge you more money then they give you the same old drivers as before and put a "V2" in the name, it took them 6 months to write/type "V2" and post them on a different page as beta drivers? I know that's not the truth as they've made a few changes (probably mostly visual), but unfortunately the "Vista drivers" are less stable on Vista than the XP drivers were/are. Go figure. A ruddy big sham if you ask me...

And I loved the 1820m so much when I first got it, it's just really starting to piss me off now. And by the way, this isn't so much a rant, I'd say it's aggression built up from the stupid silly audio going "left to right to left to right, right to left, ohh it's gone. oh it's on the right again". I'm shouting "come out of both speakers you big fannywipe" and no sound comes out at all, it does it to annoy me.

Mr Angry. I feel like Hulk sometimes, full of rage

John - Owner of E-MU 0404, 1212m, 1820m, Creative Zen Mp3, Soundblaster! Live, Audigy 2, Audigy 2ZS, Audigy4 Pro Platinum, Creative Gigaworks. (If you read this Creative/E-MU you could say I'm a "regular customer").

PS. And yes, I do realise that the E-MU 1820 is "unsupported", but how do you expect creative people (excuse the pun) to stop creating for months on end? Especially when their DAW works flawlessly in Vista?

Plus I need more than 2 GB RAM (video editing software; all in one solution PC), so I basically NEED Vista. Capiche?

P3U6!SUn 3H+

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