KVR Audio

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:54 pm

ttoz wrote:Z2 is not THAT new and why always post the same thing that the current presets don't show it's capabilities?

But it still has the same set of factory presets that it had when it still was a beta version. Except for Howard's first batch of 100 presets that were added with V2.1 - which will be extended to 300 with V2.2

pschelfh · Post by **pschelfh** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:01 pm

Urs wrote:
ttoz wrote:Z2 is not THAT new and why always post the same thing that the current presets don't show it's capabilities?
But it still has the same set of factory presets that it had when it still was a beta version. Except for Howard's first batch of 100 presets that were added with V2.1 - which will be extended to 300 with V2.2

+ There are some good free and commercial banks available !

Urs, maybe you could include a 'best of' from the free presets and a couple of 'teasers' from the commercial presets in the new Zebra V2.2 factory bank ?

Peter.

pschelfh · Post by **pschelfh** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:06 pm

Howard wrote:
ttoz wrote:...why always post the same thing that the current presets don't show it's capabilities? then MAKE some! You have been talking about cloning virus patches for months now and I haven't heard anything yet...Actions speak louder than words!
Actions, huh? I've almost completed about 300 factory presets especially for the next Z2 update. Including some Virus clones.

This is my work right now - no time to play. You'll have to wait like everyone else. Sorry.

Great news Howard, if someone knows how to make 'Virus-y sounding' presets, then it should be you !

Howard wrote:If you would post a "this is the Virus" sound from your Virus, or tell me which preset you'd like me to clone, I'd be able to show that Z2 can capture that character rather well

Same here !

Peter.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:41 pm

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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:05 pm

ttoz wrote:and even so if I am that impressed I will buy Z2 again direct from Urs this time! How's that!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

That would make you the first 3-timer... but only the forth one who's bought it twice directly from me...

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:23 pm

Oh... what the heck! I've just spent half an hour making this: http://www.box.net/shared/ttnd2ldxk5
It's just a quick teaser for you non-believing Tarnce fans out there.
Hmmm. Starts a bit too softly, kicks in later. Enjoy

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:25 pm

Doesn't sound anything like a Virus to me.

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:36 pm

jupiter8 wrote:
shogger wrote:
John Vulich wrote:
shogger wrote:
John Vulich wrote:... if you want to hear what a real synth sounds like.
Yes, the Virus is a soft synth. It's not real.

Shogger
It's a phrase referring to levels of quality, not emulation.

Well, from time to time I'm not interested in hearing about your hamster being pregnant or how tasty your vintage corn flakes collection is but I simply like to stay ON topic. If you didn't get the message, sorry sir!

Shogger
I'm still not sure wheter you were seious or not when you said the Virus is a softsynh and not real. However it is software whereas the Matrix 12 is analog. Or at least the signal path (osc,vcf,vca).The modulators are software generated on the Matrix 12 as well.
What i think John (or do you prefer mr Vulich?) meant was the Virus isn't the only game in town.There's plenty of other synths that sounds really good. The Matrix 12 being one of them. One of the best synths i've tried period.

OK,

I see. Obviously I was too much around the corner and apologize for my postings. Please relax.

Shogger

P.S. Just to get that stright, too: I agree on the Matrix 12. One of the best synths I ever heard. I still remember back then coming to the store and someone who can REALLY play keyboards (me is a guitarists mainly) demoed this beauty and I was substantially floored. 2 hours later I left the shop with a strong memory.

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:44 pm

pschelfh wrote:
shogger wrote:The goal is to show if Zebra2 can emulate the famous Virus sounds really convincing.
shogger, can you please define 'famous Virus sounds' ?

Since I have Zebra2 and my Virus TI (finaly) arrived, I could do a comparison between the 2. If someone could provide some midi-file, this would be most helpful !

I must say that I'm a bit disapointed by the sound of the TI, I had much better memories of my Virus B (maybe because there weren't as many good VSTi's around back then). For my latest songs I prefer the sounds of Zeba2 and Nexus much more than those of the TI.

Peter.

Actually I mean e.g. the sounds that bmanic was talking about. These specially ticking sounds with low res and high Filter Env mod. The example that Urs reposted where he asked you if this is straight Virus output. I tried for several hours to emulate that one with Zebra but I'm only that close that my wife likes it more than the Virus one. But to me it doesn't sound 100% -LIKE- the Virus.

Gotta try some more as this is a characteristic that fascinated me for years when I heard the Virus.

pschelfh wrote:BTW : Check out my Zebra2 soundbank, there are some from-the-top-of-my-head Virus sounds in there (I didn't have a Virus when I made them, so it's not 1:1), just trying to capture the sonic character of the beast.

Cool, thanx for the reminder. I think I already downloaded your soundbank but didn't try it yet. Will do soon.

Shogger

aquar · Post by **aquar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:45 pm

Howard wrote:Oh... what the heck! I've just spent half an hour making this: http://www.box.net/shared/ttnd2ldxk5
It's just a quick teaser for you non-believing Tarnce fans out there.
Hmmm. Starts a bit too softly, kicks in later. Enjoy

Good try but to be honest the adxhip example sounded far more convincing to me.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:45 pm

Shy wrote:Doesn't sound anything like a Virus to me.

Well it wouldn't to you, would it?

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:47 pm

aquar wrote:adxhip example

Do you have a link to that?

aquar · Post by **aquar** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:53 pm

Howard wrote:
aquar wrote:adxhip example
Do you have a link to that?

Here's the link to the thread where it was posted along with the subtractor example both of which sounded better to me.
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143950
Not sure if the links have expired? I downloaded the mp3's many months ago and haven't heard better as yet.

Shy · Post by **Shy** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:56 pm

Howard wrote:
Shy wrote:Doesn't sound anything like a Virus to me.
Well it wouldn't to you, would it?

Yes, tough luck. Wouldn't to many others either, so don't be disappointed.

ericj23 · Post by **ericj23** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:03 pm

Shy wrote:
Howard wrote:
Shy wrote:Doesn't sound anything like a Virus to me.
Well it wouldn't to you, would it?
Yes, tough luck. Wouldn't to many others either, so don't be disappointed.

its a good attempt - it's defintely a tarnce lead - but it does not sound like the virus - the filter is too clean and it doesnt have as much as bass as I would expect from a similar virus preset

The "Zebra2 plays Virus" challenge