The "Zebra2 plays Virus" challenge

[spaceman]

Here is the original Virus Example

The infamous virus arp: virus1.mp3

Now that sounds sweet
Apart from the subtractor and xhip examples nothing I've heard comes even remotely close.
Does anybody have the midi? At least then we'd have another chance of replicating the example with the latest batch of vsti's.

Vaz Modular can do this I'm sure (and a lot more)

it would help if someone posted a midi file here of this arp clip and maybe a pad melody one as well to use for comparisons

[thespecialist]

Here is the original Virus Example

The infamous virus arp: virus1.mp3

Now that sounds sweet
Apart from the subtractor and xhip examples nothing I've heard comes even remotely close.
Does anybody have the midi? At least then we'd have another chance of replicating the example with the latest batch of vsti's.

Yeah ! I'd love to hear it on other VSTI's. While I don't think the Zebra sound is bad at all, it's just nowhere near the virus. I'd love to hear it on other VST's.

[D-Fusion]

Here is the original Virus Example

The infamous virus arp: virus1.mp3

Now that sounds sweet
Apart from the subtractor and xhip examples nothing I've heard comes even remotely close.
Does anybody have the midi? At least then we'd have another chance of replicating the example with the latest batch of vsti's.

As you wish

Here is the correct Midi format i was exporting it to riff midi but it is fixed now: http://www.box.net/shared/v7m6dy44k9

[pschelfh]

Here is the original Virus Example

The infamous virus arp: virus1.mp3

Now that sounds sweet
Apart from the subtractor and xhip examples nothing I've heard comes even remotely close.
Does anybody have the midi? At least then we'd have another chance of replicating the example with the latest batch of vsti's.

As you wish

Here is the Midi: http://www.box.net/shared/y4vp5a03a0

Thanks !

What's the .rmi extension ? Do I remove that ?

Peter.

[D-Fusion]

I am not sure why it came up since i rendered it from sonar as a midifile.

[pschelfh]

By any chance, do you know the name of this preset on the Virus ?

Peter.

[D-Fusion]

Ooops Sorry my mistake
Here is the midifile: http://www.box.net/shared/v7m6dy44k9

I did'nt see that i had saved it as a Riff midi.

[spaceman]

I am not sure why it came up since i rendered it from sonar as a midifile.

probably some setting. rmi is a sort of wrapper
can you post a normal midi?

[spaceman]

cool

[D-Fusion]

I am not sure why it came up since i rendered it from sonar as a midifile.

probably some setting. rmi is a sort of wrapper
can you post a normal midi?

I have fixed it
Click on the link above your last post

I am not shure what the Virus preset is called since i don't own a Virus.
The Tempo for the midi file is 140BPM.

[kuniklo]

Having said that, a modular synth with the quality of Z2 is a much more satisfying playground for sound design fanatics like me than a collection of one-trick ponies. And once you've nailed the sound you want, you can use it at any time (duh!). Yes I know - if you're not careful, this whole "playground" thing can get in the way of making music...

It's obvious why people like you and Michael love Z2. Urs has done an excellent job of putting a huge range of synthesis techniques behind a very usable and uncluttered interface. It's a dream for patch designers. With an ever-improving patch library and the xy-performance controls it's becoming great patch tweakers synth too.

I find myself reaching more for synths like impOSCar and Twin but that has more to do with my own musical style and working methods than anything else. I suppose if I invested some time in building a few Z2 starting-point templates for different kinds of sounds I could get pretty close to the same kind of process just with Z2.

[beej]

I suppose if I invested some time in building a few Z2 starting-point templates for different kinds of sounds I could get pretty close to the same kind of process just with Z2.

Yep - that's exactly why I included a bunch of patch templates in the Transmission patch set. You can call up a simple 1-osc polysynth, a 3-oscillator VA, an 4-op FM synth, and even patch-specific templates (like "warm pad", "digital pad" or "bass") all with various stuff pre-configured, incuding the XY controls.

I have found these offer great starting points and mean you don't have to start from an empty grid, or someone else's patch where you have to decode the grid and complex mod routings before you can do much.

Doing your own templates is a useful excercise in itself, but if you want some shortcuts, well... <pimp mode=off>

[kuniklo]

Thinking about it on the ride to work...

There's one other, purely psychological, thing that steers me away from synths like Z2 and Massive. When I'm presented with a complex tool I feel obliged to use it in complex ways. When I dial up a patch I like in Z2 that uses only two or three modules I feel a strange compulsion to embellish it, even if the sound fits perfectly. Twin gives a sort of implicit permission to do something simple and even simple things tend to sound good in Twin, to my ears at least. This might just be my own compulsion but these kinds of psychological factors can be at least as important as the technical issues we tend to discuss.

The Virus falls somewhere in between Z2 and Twin in this respect.

[thespecialist]

Here is the original Virus Example

The infamous virus arp: virus1.mp3

I made this one with Sylenth1, no external effects:
http://www.speedyshare.com/217959616.html

[pdxindy]

Hmmm, what do you guys think of the concept of Tera? If I'm correct, one can switch to a view that presents you with parameters optimized for a certain type of sound. Can you afterwards switch back to the complex view and work/use this sound more?

Urs

I find Tera hard to understand and the different views confused me more than helped me. Zebra it is very easy to see the signal path at a glance. Tera this is not so. I would look at a preset and not know what was routed which way.

I think Zebra already has some 'simple' views in that you create a basic configuration and use that as a template and you never have to 'switch' between them.