The "Zebra2 plays Virus" challenge

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gsoto wrote:This was my try then using Xhip and some effects: gsoto_xhip_virus_arp.mp3
But I'm sure it can be done better.
I like that version, too. The interface of Xhip reminds me of a Telecaster: You have to fight to make it what you want to. But when you really fight you get a great sound.
gsoto wrote:The guy who did the original clip probably knew what he was doing.
I say so, too. Doesn't sound like a beginner to me.

Shogger

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mkastrup wrote:One more from me which is more moderate. 2 things bothers me in the original: 1 the volume is constant, 2 the sweep mostly affect high registers and leave low and mids alone.

Anyways, i think this example is somewhat true to the genre:

http://www.michaelkastrup.com/synthdemo ... nge_03.mp3

EDIT: oops perhaps i should add, this sound is ment to be inspired by the Virus example not emulation because then i would have to do serious research on the filter settings. This version is more what i would prefer coming from Zebra.

To me the Virus example sounds more like a flatliner buzz and not that dynamic in sound. :) Well at least i'm not blown away by the original, thats for sure. Maybe because that sound have been played to death.

/Michael
Boah! I like this one most of all posted examples. It has the nice smack/click and a cool filter sound. If someone would tell me that this is a Virus I would believe it. Very good, Michael! :D :love:

Shogger

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hifiboom wrote:
Tronam wrote:
hifiboom wrote:actually the original sound isn't that impressive.

what you all love seem to come from the access fx and not the raw basic sound.
Nahh, the built-in effects aren't all that special, believe me. The only effect that I think really stands out on the Virus is their phaser. It is one of the best digital phasers I've ever heard. They do have a few distortion models that are kind of nice though too. Everything else is pretty below standard of what we've come to expect in the virtual effect realm. I used to own a Virus and the raw basic sound is pretty solid, though it all comes down to personal taste in the end. HERE is a small example I made a while back when comparing various filter behavior between different synths. It is just a simple pattern on the Virus B, raw with no effects (the Virus B has no built-in EQ or compression either) where I'm simply closing and opening the filter. Notice how phasey it is initially, but as the filter closes it gels together in an interesting way. There might be some kind of hardwired equalization curve going on inside, for all I know, to get it to sound that way. :shrug:
maybe its just the detuning of the hypersaw multiosc.
No, this was from a Virus B. There is no "Hypersaw" oscillator in the Virus until the TI series was released. A, B and C models had no such multiosc. That original Virus clip was recorded off of a Virus C.

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It might be fun to start a new thread, independant of Zebra, for emulation of the original loop, see who can get the closest to the Virus. I'd love to hear it on other synths too.

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gsoto wrote:ZOMG TEH ARP IS BACK!!!!1!! :shock: :lol:
Urs wrote:Just out of interest, does the TI sound like this right out of the box, without any external compression?
I'm no sure that the clip is a raw Virus; it could be post processed.
The mp3 was originally posted by crimsontider in the old Virus thread. Some time ago Elijah.P told me in another thread that the sequence (melody) is from one of Manuel Schleis' demos. I don't know if the mp3 is taken from the demo though. That's all I know about teh arp.

This was my try then using Xhip and some effects: gsoto_xhip_virus_arp.mp3
But I'm sure it can be done better.

The original is still the best so far. But it's easier to make a nice sound than to recreate one. I'd like to hear an attempt from someone using a Virus...
In the end I think it's more about the people than the tools. The guy who did the original clip probably knew what he was doing.
An excellent attempt, sir. Well done. :tu:

The original Virus arp sequence was snipped from a patch parade demo of Vengeance Sound's Incubation V2 sound bank. It was recorded off a Virus C with no post-processing. While there is no compressor in the Virus C, Access did implement a 3-band EQ into that model and beyond.

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Do you guys happen to have a MIDI for this little part?

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soundpalace wrote:Do you guys happen to have a MIDI for this little part?

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Here you go:
D-Fusion wrote:Ooops Sorry my mistake :D
Here is the midifile: http://www.box.net/shared/v7m6dy44k9

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ta :D

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mkastrup wrote:One more from me which is more moderate. 2 things bothers me in the
To me the Virus example sounds more like a flatliner buzz and not that dynamic in sound. :)
/Michael
I agree, it isn't a very good example of the Virus, we need a better example showing of the Virus capabilities :)

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Hey all, here's my attempt, the original is damn hard to reproduce to say the least (makes me want a Virus even more!)...

http://www.savefile.com/files/942563

P.S.: Sorry I uploaded a WAV, I'll compress to MP3 next time

Cheers
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Howard wrote:
pdxindy wrote:When you do a filter sweep in Twin, it is smoother. The volume and frequencies seem to change smoothly. In Zebra it is a bit incremental and maybe a certain frequency will suddenly be slightly louder. (hard to analyze/describe what I heard). I think the Virus is like Twin in that it is smoother in the sweep.
It's not in the filters (IMO), I reckon it's what each product does to Continuous Controller data...

Twin appears to have quite a lot of CC smoothing (try e.g. mod wheel > Cutoff). The upside of this is that slow and medium rate manual sweeps are um... very smooth! The downside is that rapid CC movement is smoothed too much, and it starts to feel rather "spongy" if you dig in a lot.

Zebra seems to have a lot less CC smoothing. I think overall that the Virus has the best CC smoothing, Z2 could do with a little more (but not quite as much as Twin). Unfortunately, I remember the pitchbend on TI being much too smooth (so I couldn't do George-Duke-rate bending). This might have changed in the meantime - anyone know?
cool, thanks for clarifying that point...

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soundpalace wrote:(makes me want a Virus even more!)
Well, if it's a Virus C then I reckon the original sample is *not* just raw Virus. How else would you get the phasing out of it?

Does anybody here actually own a Virus? Can anybody actually recreate the orginial sample on Virus?

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Urs wrote:Can anybody actually recreate the orginial sample on Virus?
That's a good question.

Shogger

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Well the mp3 was snipped from the Vengeance Virus collection sound samples...

www.vengeance-sound.de - Incubation V2 - Virus C Soundset by Manuel Schleis.mp3

at 38sec

The website clearly states
A Cubase Reverb32 was used, all other FX are from the Virus.
There are tons of incredible sounds if you listen to all the Virus audio demos. I'll compile a few of my favorite sounds. If you think that the virus arp was awesome and hard to reproduce, wait till you hear this stuff I'm going to post :D

Cheers
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Urs wrote:Well, if it's a Virus C then I reckon the original sample is *not* just raw Virus. How else would you get the phasing out of it?
By using the in-built phaser, Urs!

BTW: I think Z2's Allpass in parallel with the straight signal is a fantastic sounding phaser :)
Best I've ever heard - and it's PER VOICE if you want!

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