Saving preset disables automation

[groumpf]

In Live 6.0.7, since I saved some patch in several Zebras in the same song, the track automation for Zebra parameters are disabled (grey display instead of red square) for these tracks.
Is anyone know how to enable the automation ?

I don't know if the problem is Live or Zebra.

Edit: if I restarts Live I get back my automation !

Actually I was able to do automation on others parameters but the parameters that already had automation were disabled.

[Urs]

Now that's extremely weird! I can't think of any reason right away why this would happen.

Were you using Live's patch saving fascility or Zebra's?

[groumpf]

The Zebra save to save as h2p extended.
Actually I'm wondering if this problem is not related to the transpose bug in Live, because I already have an automation disabled without saving, but I don't remember what I wad doing.

And Ableton did not release the 6.0.8 yet, grrrrr

[Urs]

Oh... I thought the transpose bug was fixed?

Nevertheless, if you save within Z2 and Live somehow happens to be confused, there must be something that's sent to Live. I'll try to find out if and what I send to the host when saving a patch...

Urs

[raikard233]

The Zebra save to save as h2p extended.
Actually I'm wondering if this problem is not related to the transpose bug in Live, because I already have an automation disabled without saving, but I don't remember what I wad doing.

And Ableton did not release the 6.0.8 yet, grrrrr

I had a similar problem with a zebra filter cutoff automation in live some time ago: when i restarted the project from the first bar the automation wasn't matched with the cutoff value; everytime it closed totally the cutoff on zebra, although the automation was set to start with a mid value, and it disabled the automation.
I will check that old project.

Edit:
I've checked this project: i have to move the cutoff on Z2 and disable then the Back to Arrangement button (that's activiated in the moment that i move the z2 cutoff) to have the correct automation read.

[groumpf]

I replayed the problem:
launch Live, setup a Zebra
make an automation on X1 in arrangement
save the patch with Zebra
=> the automation X1 is disabled

actually the save did not complete because the patch name I choose already exists, I had the dialog to confirm the overwrite and clic "don't save"

[raikard233]

I've repeated the test and i can confirm, after saving a preset it disables the automation, live 6.0.7 and z2.1 .
Will try with the 6.0.8 beta.

EDIT:

Just tried, the problem persist also with 6.0.8beta8 .

[Urs]

Okay... very interesting...

Does this happen in other hosts?

I'll try Logic and Cubase today... and then try to hunt down what it is...

[raikard233]

Does this happen in other hosts?

Uhm, i have only Abe Live as sequencer host...i can try to load z2 into kore loaded as vst in Live and view what happens..

[raikard233]

I don't know if it's normal, but under kore i can't save zebra presets, the only way to save a preset is to save a koresound.
After a save of a koresound the automation remains on.
Sure not helpful, but right to know..i hope.