What the !!! Has anyone even seen this!!??
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- KVRAF
- 7317 posts since 7 Mar, 2003
- KVRAF
- 6504 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH
Our beloved TROLL, long time no see !!!!frequency_algorithm wrote:This might be a "breakthrough vsti" or whatever, but it does not sound realistic at all, it sounds cheesy and fake. I listened to all the demos on that site, and they sound very bad, I don't think many people would use that type of quality in their music, unless they were beginner, or they didn't care, which is not many people. All these posts about how good this thing sounds are false. If you compare this sound to a guy actually playing an instrument, you will see this thing sounds like shit. For example, here's what a real, cheap high school violinist cheaply recorded for 80 bucks sounds like in a real hiphop production. All cheaply done for way less than that library with a cheap ass violin.
http://www.groovygrooves.com/video/turn ... iolin-duet
have a good sleep, kid !
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- KVRian
- 1334 posts since 5 May, 2004 from fighting the kVr disInfo
breakthrough technology, same ancient overpricing, IMHO
....but then again, most "producers" wouldnt have a need for a lot of brass, so maybe the pricing is justified by having a smaller market than say, a subtractive synth would....strings would be much more of a "breakthrough" vsti, but again, not sure about the prices.....it would have to come with an expression controller on my budget
but as far as how this thing works, very cool indeed
....but then again, most "producers" wouldnt have a need for a lot of brass, so maybe the pricing is justified by having a smaller market than say, a subtractive synth would....strings would be much more of a "breakthrough" vsti, but again, not sure about the prices.....it would have to come with an expression controller on my budget
but as far as how this thing works, very cool indeed
i am me and i am free...k thx bai
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- Banned
- 112 posts since 13 Jun, 2007
not so cheap if you were doing a whole album with one of these instruments...frequency_algorithm wrote:This might be a "breakthrough vsti" or whatever, but it does not sound realistic at all, it sounds cheesy and fake. I listened to all the demos on that site, and they sound very bad, I don't think many people would use that type of quality in their music, unless they were beginner, or they didn't care, which is not many people. All these posts about how good this thing sounds are false. If you compare this sound to a guy actually playing an instrument, you will see this thing sounds like shit. For example, here's what a real, cheap high school violinist cheaply recorded for 80 bucks sounds like in a real hiphop production. All cheaply done for way less than that library with a cheap ass violin.
http://www.groovygrooves.com/video/turn ... iolin-duet
12 songs times 80 bucks is 960 dollars... and you cant keep the violin or violinist locked up in your basement... and this kid is pretty damned good so i doubt youd find it at any highschool..
and i guess you are the type to proposition high school kids, but im not.
this is a breakthrough vsti, and its well worth the price.
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- KVRAF
- 6242 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
Wallander wrote:Sorry brok, only the first paragraph was directed at you. I edited my post and switched the order of the paragraphs so that there won't be any misunderstandings.brok landers wrote:wallander, i'm not sure why you explain _me_ ...
Wallander wrote:Hmm, it's still odd about your graphics card. I googled your card briefly, and I saw that it's targeted at Direct3D 8, and WIVI uses Direct3D 9, but I should also add that we've run WIVI successfully on much worse/older cards than that. Did you say this also happends in Software rendering mode? In that mode there really shouldn't be a compatibility problem. The graphics mode is switched through WIVI settings, which can be found from the Start menu.
well, sadly i'm out of ideas on what to do to fix whatever causes this ...
if you need a betatester, here i am (if the plug causes this, which i doubt) ...
Wallander wrote:The internal reverb is synthetic, but it processes early reflections and direct sound separately. A convolution reverb was originally planned, but we ended up with a synthetic reverb partly because it's so much more efficient. Another reason was that it's very easy to hook up WIVI to a external convolution reverb, such as IR1 or AltiVerb. But if you use synthetic reverb with WIVI it's much harder to get nice results. Since a lot of people will want to run WIVI with low CPU load and no delay, it made sense to include a synthetic reverb tailored for WIVI.
it's well known here on kvr that i'm a real reverb enthusiast, so i'm not easy with statements like this ...
of course i can say more, if i can try the reverb isolated on whatever inputsignal ... so the final judge is about to be given after that of course ... but what i've heard sofar is _really_ impressive!
another question:
are you from germany?
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 7 Nov, 2005 from Florida
What is so great about forums is how easy it is to ignore the assholes.
Mike
Mike
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- KVRAF
- 6242 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
why ain't you do it, then ...?

regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRAF
- 4420 posts since 7 Nov, 2005 from Florida
That was my nice, polite, yet rude way to point out the obvious.
Mike
Mike
- KVRian
- 1068 posts since 25 Jul, 2007 from Calgary
Yup, synthesized (not real players). I am a flute player and that is definatley not played live.
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- KVRian
- 880 posts since 22 Jan, 2005
Well, to me it doesn't sound like a real instrument either.frequency_algorithm wrote:This might be a "breakthrough vsti" or whatever, but it does not sound realistic at all, it sounds cheesy and fake.
But supposedly the value is in how it "behaves" like a real instrument and reacts to all the variables.
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- KVRAF
- 1906 posts since 5 Feb, 2005 from UK - Stafford/Lancaster (uni)
anywho. that duet is friggin great!!frequency_algorithm wrote:blah blah blah * co! * blah blah blah
http://www.groovygrooves.com/video/turn ... iolin-duet
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- KVRAF
- 6242 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
well, then that means you probably have to practice, no?JavaJ wrote:Yup, synthesized (not real players). I am a flute player and that is definatley not played live.
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Well I can remember the WIVI instrument is something has been already discussed here... Anyway I'm unable to try the demo, as I load the instruments it prompt me with an error message about Direct3D and the loading is aborted...
I have the latest DirextX installed etc. etc. I remember I had some talking with the author but I can't still try this baby.
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- KVRAF
- 6242 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...
so finally i'm not alone with the graphics issue ... 
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man
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- KVRAF
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Brok Landers: "well, it could be that my card is the issue ... it's a matrox g550"
Well mine is a Matrox G400 Dual Head. So now we know it's something related with Matrox cards.
Well mine is a Matrox G400 Dual Head. So now we know it's something related with Matrox cards.
