KVR Audio

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:04 am

what about wav-files as reference sounds.

the mp3 format works fine with complete mixes where frequecies are hidden but with raw oscillator sounds it can heavenly "crush" the sound.

johnny2johnny · Post by **johnny2johnny** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:41 am

AUTO-ADMIN: Smilies have been disabled in this post in the quest for sanity!

LOL

MaliceX · Post by **MaliceX** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:28 am

Other than the lack of a proper unison and phaser effect, would it be possible for Oatmeal to pull off a virus emulation? (It's got a proper distortion unit that's for sure.

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EDIT: Shitty attempt in Oatmeal. Needed something to do anyway...

http://djtbmx.soulbreakers.com/junkpile ... review.mp3
http://djtbmx.soulbreakers.com/junkpile ... ttempt.omp (Oatmeal PATCH for first attempt, rest is for other bank-related purposes.)

Tronam · Post by **Tronam** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:04 pm

The Virus' phaser effect is superb to my ears. I've been generally unimpressed by most digital simulations that I've heard, but Access pulled it off marvelously. I would have always thought that unison is unison and it would be essentially the same on any synth, but that was until I heard the Nord Lead's implementation. I'm not entirely sure why Clavia's unison sounds the way that it does, but it's the best that I've ever heard and no other synth I've owned implements stereo unison in exactly the same way. The Virus' wasn't nearly as good either.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:31 pm

Couldn't mimic the virus so I gave up.. instead I simply twisted some knobs on the first part of Soundpalace's bass riff. Enjoy 6 minutes of drunken tweaking that makes no sense at all.. there might be some nice sounds or there might not.

FabFilter Twin doing it's thing

Cheers!
bManic

PS. I quite like what the 128kbit of MP3 compression does to stabby synth sounds!

pschelfh · Post by **pschelfh** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:26 pm

bmanic wrote:drunken tweaking

So that's how those DJ's do it !

Just put a heavy bass drum under it and you're ready to go to Ibiza.

Peter.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:31 pm

bmanic wrote:Couldn't mimic the virus so I gave up.. instead I simply twisted some knobs on the first part of Soundpalace's bass riff. Enjoy 6 minutes of drunken tweaking that makes no sense at all.. there might be some nice sounds or there might not.

FabFilter Twin doing it's thing

Cheers!
bManic

PS. I quite like what the 128kbit of MP3 compression does to stabby synth sounds!

you should get drunk more often.. or maybe you already do

Twin is cool

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:37 pm

bmanic wrote: FabFilter Twin doing it's thing

Isn't Twin great? I'm appreciating its versatility more and more. With some synths once you've heard the components you've pretty much heard it all but with Twin the components can interact with each other in unpredictable ways, especially at more extreme settings. Twin's become a bit of a personal benchmark for me with synths.

PS. I quite like what the 128kbit of MP3 compression does to stabby synth sounds!

Sounds like a new secret weapon for production.

hifiboom · Post by **hifiboom** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:43 pm

the acid style version.
http://home.arcor.de/rd50info_site/soundcheck/vxd_3.mp3

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:40 pm

Just to point behind this for me what the arp is concerned.. my last changes to the Twin patch:

Ze Arp played by ze Twin.. es ist zoeper!

This is how I'd want the patch to sound, not as much an attempt to copy completely (hmm.. yes, that sounds good enough

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spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:03 pm

woops.. was the wrong version
new one uploaded now

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:05 pm

I have found a synth that comes close to the Virus for that bass clip

I'll post later today. Synth1 & Massive were failed attempts.

bManic & hifiboom: Awesome clips!

Cheers
Fots

JonasNorberg · Post by **JonasNorberg** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:36 am

Urs wrote:Had a quick look on the code... it seems to use wave cycles that fit a number of samples. My attempts in that direction were pretty frustrating.

I have one cycle per harmonic, linear interpolation, no oversampling.

Pros: Great performance, great signal to noise at high frequencies.

Cons: can be memory hungry. Limited number of harmonics (can be "dull" at low frequencies).

fgimian · Post by **fgimian** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:13 am

soundpalace wrote:I have found a synth that comes close to the Virus for that bass clip I'll post later today. Synth1 & Massive were failed attempts.

bManic & hifiboom: Awesome clips!

Cheers
Fots

I was wrong, tried again and compared and my attempt is simply not as punchy. Time to buy a Virus me thinks

Cheers
Fots

Innominandum · Post by **Innominandum** » Sat Aug 11, 2007 2:03 am

soundpalace wrote:
Urs wrote:
soundpalace wrote:What do you guys make of the bass sounds ? I had posted a clip of them earlier ?
Oooph... where are they? On the Vengeance website?
Hold up, I'll grab a link, I put together times of my fav sounds from the Vengeance soundsets. This stuff is all from Incubation v2 which is the one the arp is also on.

Edit: see below

The sound demo is here...
http://www.vengeance-storage.com/www.ve ... chleis.mp3

Check out the following times...

0:38 - the main arp everyone is talking about
2:15 - one of the hardest leads I've ever heard, again no chance I could even replicate half the sound on this one
2:34 / 3:10 / 3:21 - the wicked bass sounds These are substantially harder to produce than the arp above, try it! Use as many effects as you want! Very Happy
Cheers
Fots

A lot of this sounds like it was lifted directly from VNV Nation songs, can anybody explain this to me?

The "Zebra2 plays Virus" challenge