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Optomadic · Post by **Optomadic** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:14 pm

maki wrote:...Maybie this sounds complicated but actually it is necessery

Not complicated, just excessive! Hard to work with live..

insertpizhere · Post by **insertpizhere** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:29 am

with the midi looper, i am going to start small... but not too small. i don't think anyone will be disappointed if i can achieve what i have in mind (no promises though, and i haven't written any code for it yet).

i am going to keep it at 16 patterns for interface simplicity. however, keep the ideas coming. it's good to think about this stuff.

insertpizhere · Post by **insertpizhere** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:02 am

runagate wrote:My "touchsreen player" and I had a lot of fun with GUI imagery last night.

She

1) doesn't know PCs, just Mac

2) had never seen a VST

3) hasn't the slightest idea what most DSP terms mean (flanger, for instance)

But we're making great headway in explaining things to one another. I have a real keyboard player, too, but I'm really interested in getting people who haven't the slightest idea of any electronic instrument involved in "all you need is creativity" sort of involement in music. Always have, and now it's pretty feasible.

She went off to ponder weird GUI knobs, sliders, X-Ys, etc.
She makes some seriously friggin' weird band posters for groups around here, too.

this sounds great. i wish i was in a band with a touchscreen player. seems very "cutting edge."

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:54 pm

midipads: is it posible to add a full-wiev option to make the plug to take all the screen space? in this case the color bars on the top and the menu button are useless

if the plug is placed on a second screen this full-screen function will apply to the second screen... and if a energy xt project is saved with midipads in full screen on the second screen, this configuration will be restored at loading

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 8:59 pm

insertpizhere wrote:
runagate wrote:My "touchsreen player" and I had a lot of fun with GUI imagery last night.

She

1) doesn't know PCs, just Mac

2) had never seen a VST

3) hasn't the slightest idea what most DSP terms mean (flanger, for instance)

But we're making great headway in explaining things to one another. I have a real keyboard player, too, but I'm really interested in getting people who haven't the slightest idea of any electronic instrument involved in "all you need is creativity" sort of involement in music. Always have, and now it's pretty feasible.

She went off to ponder weird GUI knobs, sliders, X-Ys, etc.
She makes some seriously friggin' weird band posters for groups around here, too.
this sounds great. i wish i was in a band with a touchscreen player. seems very "cutting edge."

Well you could be if you were here and not inside a swordfish.

Cutting edge? Kinda... mostly the stuff you're doing.
The 3M touchscreen is common in restaurants and cost 186$ used, plus 50$ for VGA, serial-to-USB and power adaptor which didn't come with it. I imagine it'll be a lot more common very soon.

I've been looking into it a lot, too. There's multitouch screens with 800Mhz CPUs in em to run stuff for insanely rich people with remote control curtains in Australia for $4000.

The Nintendo DS, which I was no idea what it is, is 119$ used at Radio Shack and has this for software, unfontunately it isn't a simple playable midi GUI to hook up to VSTs but it's sweet nonetheless:

http://createdigitalmusic.com/index.php?s=nintendo+ds

The video makes me wet.

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:10 pm

i bought a touchscreen kit on ebay and mounted it inside my 19"lcd for 150€

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:17 pm

inside...?

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:51 pm

yes... you can place the kit on the screen with biadesive strips... but i choose to mount it under the plastic cover of the monitor... i have a benq t905 the kit fits almost perfectly into it

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:09 pm

someone talked about a plugin idea to allow some parameters of a plugin to return to the original position arter some tweaking...

i posted some feature requests to plastique here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 17#2793517

probably the cc-init plug can be of ispiration for you piz...

maki · Post by **maki** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:11 pm

Optomadic wrote:
maki wrote:...Maybie this sounds complicated but actually it is necessery
Not complicated, just excessive! Hard to work with live..

Ok, I wonder if it is excessive to make every of 16 midi-looper patterns capable of recieving, looping and transmitting midi-events that belong to several different midi channels.

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:03 pm

-PIKU- wrote:someone talked about a plugin idea to allow some parameters of a plugin to return to the original position arter some tweaking...

i posted some feature requests to plastique here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 17#2793517

probably the cc-init plug can be of ispiration for you piz...

That's be me. Never heard of that one. Usine Usine as I do it shouldn't be terribly hard for me to do this internally anyways, but it seems a long, long-overdue function to be had in a plug-in.

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:36 pm

plastique told me he can't do it at the moment:

so i'll put here a description of the plug i have in mind...
it's something very near to plastique's cc-init:
you can select a number of cc's (16 could be a good number) the midi-in is passed direcly to midi-out while the plug stores the last value of every cc (of the selected ones).
you have 16 pads, if you riht click, the pads learn the values of the cc's, if you left click the pads send the cc's (with the learned values) to midi out.. the pads can be note triggered.

it's very useful with complex sounds that use ring-mod.

i described a "single slider morph function" here: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 17#2793517

but i think that morphing with analog hardware controllers is difficult.
a morphing function could be contolled better with digital (relative) controllers:
with an incremental enc (hardware or even software, like the piz prototype) we only need to select the preset to "morph to" (we are not forced in the absolute position between 0 and 127) from the "actual state", then turn clockwise to morph to the next preset and anticlockwise to return to the previous state.

to jump from a preset to another you'll only have to trigger a pad and turn clockwise angain and again.... funny!

insertpizhere · Post by **insertpizhere** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:15 am

i haven't had much time to work on anything lately, but i did add a dot position readout to the pads yesterday.

http://thepiz.org/xt/midi16Pads20071028.zip

-PIKU- · Post by **-PIKU-** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:42 am

hey piz , did you use juce for midipads?
do you think it's too hard to develop midi plugins for someone that only uses maxmsp to build plugins??

MRT · Post by **MRT** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 10:27 am

Can somebody help me out? midi2querty crashes XT, is there something I'm missing on using these? m2q and XTxport both load as midi in audio out here.
win xp XTver 1.4

Sorry if I missed this but are these XT2 only?

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