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kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:17 am

Setting gate to zero still triggers a note, if only briefly. I want to skip steps in the arp entirely, like the Albino arp.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:39 am

I'll eventually put in a pause option, but the intended way was to use a double sized note length on the previous step - in order to not waste steps for nothing...

However I see that it would be cool to have i.e. a longer release and still use a new ArpMod setting.

I'll look into it today... there's only one feature to be fine tuned left for V2.2, so i might as well check possibilities for a quick Arp enhancement...

Urs

psycox · Post by **psycox** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:57 am

to Urs...this feature will be a big gift.

Howard · Post by **Howard** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 12:58 pm

kuniklo wrote:Setting gate to zero still triggers a note, if only briefly. I want to skip steps in the arp entirely, like the Albino arp.

You can double the length and halve the gate of the note (and reduce the number of steps by 1). This works OK - and has the advantage of making even longer arpeggios - but I do agree that skip would be easier

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:20 pm

Urs wrote: I'll look into it today... there's only one feature to be fine tuned left for V2.2, so i might as well check possibilities for a quick Arp enhancement...

If it's possible to add it then it would be much appreciated! Very useful for those Moroder-esque bass lines, among other things.

Somewhere down the road, if you find yourself with more time to work on the arp, it would be fantastic to have the option of clamping transposed notes to a musical scale. I use this feature all the time with the arp in the Monomachine and it's very handy for playing melodic arps in key.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:42 pm

kuniklo wrote:Somewhere down the road, if you find yourself with more time to work on the arp, it would be fantastic to have the option of clamping transposed notes to a musical scale. I use this feature all the time with the arp in the Monomachine and it's very handy for playing melodic arps in key.

This can already be done... it's tricky, but it's possible... by "abusing" the Microtuning, in which i.e. a the "black keys" of welltempered scale get assigned the same values as the nearest "white keys".

Unfortunately I havn't yet managed to add this to the scripting engine, otherwise I'd already have some nice presets from a-minor to b-major ready-2-use...

Urs

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:53 pm

Urs wrote: This can already be done... it's tricky, but it's possible... by "abusing" the Microtuning, in which i.e. a the "black keys" of welltempered scale get assigned the same values as the nearest "white keys".

... runs off to fire up zebra2...

Unfortunately I havn't yet managed to add this to the scripting engine, otherwise I'd already have some nice presets from a-minor to b-major ready-2-use...

Maybe Zebra 2.3?

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:47 pm

kuniklo wrote:
Urs wrote: I'll look into it today... there's only one feature to be fine tuned left for V2.2, so i might as well check possibilities for a quick Arp enhancement...
If it's possible to add it then it would be much appreciated! Very useful for those Moroder-esque bass lines, among other things.

Dammit, I'm home from the dentist with numb lips and somehow don't feel like doing major work in the evening...

However, a question would be: Where would the skip happen? Would it be a Gate length of zero maybe? Or would it be "0 voices"? - Because, the step control in the top row (same/next/first/last) only refers to the "reservoir of notes", and "same" is basically a pause/break there...

There has to be a rule as to what happens if the previous step is a legato one, with the Gate forming an arrow...

Hmmm... I think there are some major issues here... maybe it has to be postponed till 2.3 along with a major overhaul...

Later,

Urs

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:53 pm

Urs wrote: Hmmm... I think there are some major issues here... maybe it has to be postponed till 2.3 along with a major overhaul...

Too bad, but glad to hear you haven't given up on the idea entirely. I'm sure the implementation details are much more complex than than the concept itself. Something along the lines of the arps in FM8, Albino, the Reason RPG-8 arp or (ideally) the Monomachine arp would be fantastic.

Sorry to hear about the dentist. Nothing I hate more than the torture of the dentist's chair.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:14 pm

OKOKOK

After staring a bit confused at the most complicated code I've ever written, a quick experiment shows that setting voices to 0 pretty much solves the problem

The only issue at first sight is, if the previous step is a legato one, the note isn't released - but plays on until the 0 voice gate is finished. This might be useful even, despite not being too consistent (why would the number of voices allow for step extensions?)

I'll give this option into the beta group tonight. So it'll be available tomorrow unless they find anything serious about it.

Cheers,

Urs

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:18 pm

Urs wrote: After staring a bit confused at the most complicated code I've ever written, a quick experiment shows that setting voices to 0 pretty much solves the problem

I've done enough programming to know that the devil is always in the details in these "simple" features, but that sounds like a pretty reasonable solution to me. Thanks!

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