never been asked.....best headphones!

[stefancrs]

Never seen those before...

The hard part is actually getting to hear all these models!

Not sure you can actually find them any longer. When I bought my first pair they were like $200. When I bought my 2nd (the ones I'm using), they were like $70, but quite hard to get by.

[bduffy]

Never seen those before...

The hard part is actually getting to hear all these models!

Not sure you can actually find them any longer. When I bought my first pair they were like $200. When I bought my 2nd (the ones I'm using), they were like $70, but quite hard to get by.

Looks like we still have them in Vancouver:

http://www.tomleemusic.ca/main/recordin ... inv=105974

Interesting...I was planning to go there tomorrow anyway to demo some monitors (I think the left woofer is blown on my Near05!), maybe I'll really bug them and do some headphones too.

[hibidy]

I'm really not sure what you mean when you say HD580 is not good for tracking bass. They're amazing headphones with great and accurate frequency response in the low region as well. Maybe the problem is that you don't have something to drive them loud enough? Also, not sure what you mean by "tink tink" sound.

simple to explain (sorry, thought you'd understand)

580's are "open".......aamof, VERY open and that doesn't work for me when doing bass in particular. Listening back......yeah......that rocks, but I cannot handle the tink tink of the clacking bass strings when tracking OR even worse yet when practicing/learning a line!

[bduffy]

I'm not a big fan of open headphones; kinda defeats the purpose!

[hibidy]

Oh: and I'm using Sony MDR7506's as we speak, and I really like the way they sound at home, through my mixer, but not at work; they had no bass whatsoever, but at home, they're quite dandy.

when you say "no bass" that worries me since that is what is needed.

again, I could just use the stupid overpriced "high end" suddenly disappeared dt770's for bass tracking, but......

btw, any thought on these

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Sony-MDR-75 ... 1134484.gc

the "yak" sounds a bit weird to me, I usually find that fancy shmancy giberish doesn't cut it (ultrasones come to mind )

[hibidy]

I'm not a big fan of open headphones; kinda defeats the purpose!

I "hear" that, but it is quite nice for so many things.....EXCEPT BASS! my nemisis.......just can't get that right no matter what.

drums.....fine
guitars......er, as you know.....fine
keys (mostly) fine
vocals......um, I don't sing

bass? did you say bass? URRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGG

[Shy]

I'm really not sure what you mean when you say HD580 is not good for tracking bass. They're amazing headphones with great and accurate frequency response in the low region as well. Maybe the problem is that you don't have something to drive them loud enough? Also, not sure what you mean by "tink tink" sound.

simple to explain (sorry, thought you'd understand)

580's are "open".......aamof, VERY open and that doesn't work for me when doing bass in particular. Listening back......yeah......that rocks, but I cannot handle the tink tink of the clacking bass strings when tracking OR even worse yet when practicing/learning a line!

I see. In that case, I'd definitely recommend the already recommended HD200. Or HD280 Pro.

[hibidy]

Yeah, the hd280's are VERY bass friendly. It's not a bad idea......

[bduffy]

The Sony 7509's are a notch up from mine, and considered some of the best in that price range.

Like I said: I found on my day-to-day machine at work, where they were plugged into the sound card, or in my mp3 player, they had zilch bass and were rather quiet. Through the mixer at home, they're near-perfect sounding, and I did much comping and mixing of the album on them, so I guess they may tend to shine with headphone amplification.

My tiny AKG K26P's, however, have tons of juice, regardless of what they're plugged into. Not sure what's up with that?

[Shy]

bduffy: the "purpose" of Sennheiser's "open" headphones is to provide the best possible accurate reproduction of the audio, meaning flat frequency curve and high amount of detail. It's extremely hard to achieve that with closed headphones. The studio oriented open headphones aren't for walking around outside listening to an iPod anyway, they're for studio work.

[hibidy]

bduffy: the "purpose" of Sennheiser's "open" headphones is to provide the best possible accurate reproduction of the audio, meaning flat frequency curve and high amount of detail. It's extremely hard to achieve that with closed headphones. The studio oriented open headphones aren't for walking around outside listening to an iPod anyway, they're for studio work.

which of course is great for mixing, er, not trying to sell you on them or anything, just saying.....

[shanecgriffo]

Just got some bose triport headphones off a mate pretty cheap. They make things sound pretty good and they're pretty light. Good for mucking around recording and listening to stuff on the bus (vehicle type! Don't think i'd mix with them tho'..

[bduffy]

bduffy: the "purpose" of Sennheiser's "open" headphones is to provide the best possible accurate reproduction of the audio, meaning flat frequency curve and high amount of detail. It's extremely hard to achieve that with closed headphones. The studio oriented open headphones aren't for walking around outside listening to an iPod anyway, they're for studio work.

Yes, I know why they make open headphones, thanks. I just prefer the privacy (and less mike-bleed) of closed headphones. Plus, I didn't like the sound of the open Sennheisers at all, so that left a bad taste in my mouth.

[hibidy]

The Sony 7509's are a notch up from mine, and considered some of the best in that price range.

Like I said: I found on my day-to-day machine at work, where they were plugged into the sound card, or in my mp3 player, they had zilch bass and were rather quiet. Through the mixer at home, they're near-perfect sounding, and I did much comping and mixing of the album on them, so I guess they may tend to shine with headphone amplification.

My tiny AKG K26P's, however, have tons of juice, regardless of what they're plugged into. Not sure what's up with that?

EDIT

You know, I have had some creepy ohm/power issues with sony's in the past. For example, I had (till recently cause they were trashed from years of abuse ) some sony "dj" 700's which were nice. Not great, very uncomfy.....but nice sounding. However, some of the other sony's I tried at the time were AWFUL! Strange impedance problems, tinny or buzzy sounds.........ick! Wondering if that has something to due with it

[bduffy]

The Sony 7509's are a notch up from mine, and considered some of the best in that price range.

Like I said: I found on my day-to-day machine at work, where they were plugged into the sound card, or in my mp3 player, they had zilch bass and were rather quiet. Through the mixer at home, they're near-perfect sounding, and I did much comping and mixing of the album on them, so I guess they may tend to shine with headphone amplification.

My tiny AKG K26P's, however, have tons of juice, regardless of what they're plugged into. Not sure what's up with that?

You know, I have had some creepy ohm/power issues with sony's in the past. For example, I had (till recently cause they were trashed from years of abuse ) some sony "dj" 700's which were nice. Not great, very uncomfy.....but nice sounding. However, some of the other sony's I tried at the time were AWFUL! Strange impedance problems, tinny or buzzy sounds.........ick! Wondering if that has something to due with it

I find Sony to be all over the map below the $180 range. But I think the volume levels - at least on my end - have to do with drivers/wattage, but I'm just not techy enough to think about it right now.