SAMPLEMOOG is here!

[nikko]

Amazing pictures beergeek!

Btw there is an event today :

Michelle Moog-Koussa, our Executive Director, will be interviewed live on the radio today http://www.wncw.org/ListenLive.html. The station is WNCW, one of our favorite local stations in Western North Carolina, and one that regularly features Moog Artists.

Tune in live at 11:00 AM EST on Friday November 9, 2007.

About your question DocAtlas, if you buy any ST compatible plug-in you can load the sounds in ST. For examples load the SampleMoog in Sampletank 2.5.

[Squids]

Great pics Beer! That one with me and your bro also has Bob Grey in it who used to run one of the first sample companies "Greytsounds". He's the one who got me started sampling in the first place and also keyboard programming. He hired me to tag along as a synth programmer on my first gig ever which was the band "Lakeside". I programmed a Minimoog! I used to sample all of my vintage synths for Bob's company. One time I even answered the phones for him for a week to help out and someone called thinking the name of the company was "Greystoke"! I love that!!!! I still laughing thinking about that. Bob was a nice guy. He's an engineer now for movie trailers and was the guy who mixed the little ad spots on FOX for a while. I did my first CD ROM sample library with him called "Classic Keyboards and Vintage Synths".

Anyway, everyone please donate to the Moog foundation. It's a good cause. We're doing something special with them and Keith Emerson soon plus a reunion of the Moog Cookbook (to do a demo for SampleMoog) and all sorts of other fun stuff...

Btw, who here is on the fence about getting SampleMoog? What are you waiting for? Get over to www.esoundz.com and get it!!!!!

[beergeek]

Hey dude...which one is Bob? Is the guy behind you or the one on the far right?

[DocAtlas]

About your question DocAtlas, if you buy any ST compatible plug-in you can load the sounds in ST. For examples load the SampleMoog in Sampletank 2.5.

Thanks for clearing that up. I've got ST 2.5. The way Dave's original posting read, it sounded like the Arp & Oberheim stuff might only be available as Refills, & I don't own Reason.

[NorthSouth]

On esoundz we're putting together a free additional bank of patches you'll be able to download if you buy it there (and even some extra free patches as a gift to you no matter where you buy from too).

Squids, when would these be released ?

[thorau]

Just a question:
What is the sense of another Moog-like plugin? There are some very good sounding plugs all over here, flexible to tweak. Now Sample Moog is a plugin with a 4GB (?) or so library, less flexible logically. Who would buy it

[aMUSEd]

Just a thought but when I had Sonic Synth 2 I didn't think the filters were much cop really - after all it is a Rompler. So how can these patches sound that authentic if they don't respond properly filterwise?

[Squids]

On esoundz we're putting together a free additional bank of patches you'll be able to download if you buy it there (and even some extra free patches as a gift to you no matter where you buy from too).

Squids, when would these be released ?

These are going to be released this month.

[Squids]

Just a question:
What is the sense of another Moog-like plugin? There are some very good sounding plugs all over here, flexible to tweak. Now Sample Moog is a plugin with a 4GB (?) or so library, less flexible logically. Who would buy it

That's easy to answer. First, the other "Moog-like" plug-ins are specific models of either the Minimoog or the Moog Modular. The don't emulate also OTHER Moogs from Moog history that are also cool like Polymoog, Taurus Pedals, Memorymoog, Multimoog... so if you want more than "Moog-like" and you want the authentic sound of Theremins, Sources, MG-1's and other cool Moog synths then this is the only plug-in that offers that.

More... the trade off between modeling vs. sampling is that while you have the synth parameters and hopefully the sonic character modeled in other plug-ins with SampleMoog it starts with the authentic recorded sound of the REAL THING. Yes, you don't have the SAME flexibility over the sound but you do still have technically MORE things you can do with the sound than you do in other "Moog-like" plug-ins. This is a hybrid between a Moog and SampleTank so it has more filter types besides just a Moog-style 24db. You have the ability to layer essentially 16 oscillators for a mega synth (also in unison). Plus you can process it all with deluxe built-in effects too (that are midi controllable as part of the synth). On top of that you can use features like Stretch to get all sorts of timbral changes you can't get in anything else for experimenting or emulating pulse width type stuff.

There are a lot of reasons to get it! We wouldn't have done the product at all if there wasn't a reason. It's not like we weren't aware there were emulation plug-ins for Minimoogs etc. on the market already. But if you're a fan of the Moog sound then this is a really cool "anthology" collection of authentic sounding Moog synths! There's just tradeoffs between sampled instruments and modeled. I personally have both (as well as the real thing). I love it all for different reasons as do many people... hence it's popularity and success (if you really wanted to know "Who would want it?"). The answer is: Most Moog lovers who are making music on the computer. Why wouldn't they is a better question. Especially for this price... the price of maybe a couple of expression pedals or a carrying case.

[Squids]

Just a thought but when I had Sonic Synth 2 I didn't think the filters were much cop really - after all it is a Rompler. So how can these patches sound that authentic if they don't respond properly filterwise?

The 24db filter is very Moog-like but the biggest difference I think is the modeled legato mode. The regular SampleTank legato would not sound "liquid" enough to be "Moog-like" but this is customized for that it really makes a huge difference.

But, in the end, this IS a hybrid of SampleTank and a Moog-style synth. It's not meant to be a replica of any one Moog synth. It's a cool mix of things and the end results are REALLY cool sounds that have that Moog flavor but have a lot of sound design possibilities for creating your own unique sound as well.

[maxxxter]

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[nikko]

Some answers to the previous critics...

Having a huge soundbank does not means that the sounds are of quality. Do you think that fat food always taste better than light food? Same for sounds.

In Samplemoog the sounds are multisampled, that means that for most sounds, there is no aliasing in the high frequencies. But who said that a Moog gear is to be played in the very high frequencies? A Moog Taurus Pedal is not a picolo flute. Do not expect anything else than fat low sound from it.

There are a lot of plug-ins that uses the Moog name to try to sell, they have a nice look and sometime they sounds good too... but how many are made from real sampled gears?

Btw one of the best Minimoog emulation is a free plug made with Synthedit. But it sounds not even close to a real gear.

Samplemoog is recorded from real gears, 16 different gears. And the sound design is great, both at the recording time and with the presets using the full potential of ST 2.5 too. (do you know how much time does it takes to record and multisample 2000 sounds, and program these old gears to have their best potential?)

Don't mix everything, Samplemoog is different. And if you are serious about techno music/gears, you should give a test.

[BERFAB]

Don't mix everything, Samplemoog is different. And if you are serious about techno music, you should give a test.

Sorry about the laughter, but to those of us of a certain age, Moog = classic rock/prog rock/post modern rock (and even classical i.e. Tomita/Carlos). For guys like me, TECHNO comes very late to the Moog party, if at all. So it's funny to hear Samplemoog promoted as a must have techno machine. (Not that there's anything wrong with that...)

Cheers
-B

[nikko]

Well Techno is not only D.Punk or Mr Oiso I totally agree.

Rick Wakeman, Vangelis, Mike Oldfield, Wally Badaru, Ruichy Sakamoto, Kraftwerk, Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schultze etc... were doing some kind of Techno before it was called Techno. In my mind techo=synthesizer music and this can be incorporated in any kind of music.

Techo = technology = synthesizer music. That was the way I used this term.

[aMUSEd]

Just a thought but when I had Sonic Synth 2 I didn't think the filters were much cop really - after all it is a Rompler. So how can these patches sound that authentic if they don't respond properly filterwise?

The 24db filter is very Moog-like but the biggest difference I think is the modeled legato mode. The regular SampleTank legato would not sound "liquid" enough to be "Moog-like" but this is customized for that it really makes a huge difference.

But, in the end, this IS a hybrid of SampleTank and a Moog-style synth. It's not meant to be a replica of any one Moog synth. It's a cool mix of things and the end results are REALLY cool sounds that have that Moog flavor but have a lot of sound design possibilities for creating your own unique sound as well.

ah - so your saying the filter in the SampleMoog instrument will sound different to the one in Sampletank/Sonik Synth2? Interesting.