Hi folks
i am close to buying a receptor but need to checka few things with users or get some feedback.Can anyone using it feedback on a couple of things.
1./ How does reaktor work on this ? how long does it take to load ensembles and is it pretty flawless.
2./ Is the receptor noisy ? like a pc etc ? any fan noise ?
3./ I own various software for my pc like Atmosphere and reaktor and a few other bits.I knw what works on the receptor from supported lists and have also read the posts here on installing certain vsti's but if they do work
is it simply a question of me installing the vsti's into the receptor- ?no need to buy new versions for the receptor ?
4./ how is it for usings as an impulse reverb vst fx (using s.i.r v2 etc )
noise of the fan if any is my main concern and also how well it will load reaktor ens etc.
cheers for any advice
jack
general question son how good the receptor is
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- KVRist
- 82 posts since 15 Apr, 2007
Some answers:
2. Noise: You can hear some fan noise, but its pretty quiet. Mine sits next to a PC in an Antec case that is supposed to be designed for low noise (slow fans, noise absorbing foam, hard drives mounted on rubber bands, etc.) The PC is quite a bit louder than the Receptor.
3. Atmosphere works great on the Receptor. The sounds load MUCH faster than on my 3.5 gigahertz PC.
Haven't cross-graded Reaktor to the Receptor, so no opinion.
K.
2. Noise: You can hear some fan noise, but its pretty quiet. Mine sits next to a PC in an Antec case that is supposed to be designed for low noise (slow fans, noise absorbing foam, hard drives mounted on rubber bands, etc.) The PC is quite a bit louder than the Receptor.
3. Atmosphere works great on the Receptor. The sounds load MUCH faster than on my 3.5 gigahertz PC.
Haven't cross-graded Reaktor to the Receptor, so no opinion.
K.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
Hi
just got a receptor 2 pro (re-fitted) directly from Muse Research.
Of yes, it's noisy. Compared to my two Mac G5s and various PCs, the fan makes too much noise for my taste!
Except from this bummer, it's seems to be the best piece of instrument since my first Rhodes, Hohner Clav and B3,...
I'll hook up a mike and measure the decibels of noice from 2 feet, I bet it's more than 40 dB. Any comments from you Muse guys?
Eystein
just got a receptor 2 pro (re-fitted) directly from Muse Research.
Of yes, it's noisy. Compared to my two Mac G5s and various PCs, the fan makes too much noise for my taste!
Except from this bummer, it's seems to be the best piece of instrument since my first Rhodes, Hohner Clav and B3,...
I'll hook up a mike and measure the decibels of noice from 2 feet, I bet it's more than 40 dB. Any comments from you Muse guys?
Eystein
BR, Eystein
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- KVRian
- 581 posts since 30 Nov, 2008 from Denver CO USA
To make it quiet you can remove the CPU heat sink. Then remove the fan, then the shroud from the heat sink. Carefully enlarge the fan mount koles on the shroud to accept those rubber mounts.
Enlarge only enough so you have to pull quite a bit to get them to snap in as there isn't much surface to use. attach the shroud to the heat sink and then attach the fan. remove the old compound and use artic silver instead. then reattach the sink and plug the fan back in. TADA
Enlarge only enough so you have to pull quite a bit to get them to snap in as there isn't much surface to use. attach the shroud to the heat sink and then attach the fan. remove the old compound and use artic silver instead. then reattach the sink and plug the fan back in. TADAA minor scale is a major scale starting 3 half steps down from the major and visa versa. Any Chord has as many versions as it has notes.
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- KVRist
- 44 posts since 3 Jan, 2010
thx for a nice reply,
I guessed it is the cpu fan and not so much the vent fans, however the sum of pure air-flow noise is pretty high...
The rubbers will definately take care of cpu-fan vibration a lot, good idea! The Intel Core 2 Duo need a lot more cooling than the AMD turion and athlon used in the slower receptors. I'll set up Cooler Master V10 (21dB) on my wish list.
Anyone else who's been hushing a 2 pro?
//Eystein
I guessed it is the cpu fan and not so much the vent fans, however the sum of pure air-flow noise is pretty high...
The rubbers will definately take care of cpu-fan vibration a lot, good idea! The Intel Core 2 Duo need a lot more cooling than the AMD turion and athlon used in the slower receptors. I'll set up Cooler Master V10 (21dB) on my wish list.
Anyone else who's been hushing a 2 pro?
//Eystein
BR, Eystein
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- KVRian
- 581 posts since 30 Nov, 2008 from Denver CO USA
If I remember right the other big noise maker is the power supply. it has really small fans that cause the air rushing noise.
A minor scale is a major scale starting 3 half steps down from the major and visa versa. Any Chord has as many versions as it has notes.
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Kevin@MuseResearch Kevin@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=200693
- MUSEician
- 188 posts since 11 Feb, 2009
James,
Regarding your plugin questions, you can indeed port over both reaktor and Atmosphere for free, provided you still have authorizations left for them (I think NI only limits you to 3!). A few plugins will also require a 'crossgrade' to the iLok enabled version of the plugin. Sometimes this requires a small fee, sometimes it does not, it just depends on the plugin developer.
The VIR stuff is not officially supported by us, but I've been running VIR1 successfully for over a year now...I only tried VIR 2 briefely (didn't purchase a license for it) but it seemed to work fine as well.
- Kevin
Regarding your plugin questions, you can indeed port over both reaktor and Atmosphere for free, provided you still have authorizations left for them (I think NI only limits you to 3!). A few plugins will also require a 'crossgrade' to the iLok enabled version of the plugin. Sometimes this requires a small fee, sometimes it does not, it just depends on the plugin developer.
The VIR stuff is not officially supported by us, but I've been running VIR1 successfully for over a year now...I only tried VIR 2 briefely (didn't purchase a license for it) but it seemed to work fine as well.
- Kevin
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- KVRist
- 411 posts since 25 Apr, 2007 from Northern CA
The Receptor is an optimized hardware/software VST host that depends on Linux running Wine (a Windows compatibility layer).
The downside of this proprietary dependency (on Linux and Wine) means that you will typically see a delay between the release of updates to your VST plugins and the corresponding Receptor update. Sometimes you may not see an update at all if the plugin includes any new feature that Wine cannot provide. For example, the Receptor does not support SSE2, so your plugins that require this feature will not work. You need to test every plugin that is critical to you right away so that you can decide if it is worth any compromise (and the price). There may also be a charge for porting your plugins to the Receptor, which can be determined at the Plugorama site, or by contacting the manufacturer. Another problem you may run into is eLicensing or any other form of hardware/software authorization that is not supported by the Receptor.
JR
The downside of this proprietary dependency (on Linux and Wine) means that you will typically see a delay between the release of updates to your VST plugins and the corresponding Receptor update. Sometimes you may not see an update at all if the plugin includes any new feature that Wine cannot provide. For example, the Receptor does not support SSE2, so your plugins that require this feature will not work. You need to test every plugin that is critical to you right away so that you can decide if it is worth any compromise (and the price). There may also be a charge for porting your plugins to the Receptor, which can be determined at the Plugorama site, or by contacting the manufacturer. Another problem you may run into is eLicensing or any other form of hardware/software authorization that is not supported by the Receptor.
JR
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Bryan@MuseResearch Bryan@MuseResearch https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=9067
- MUSEician
- 618 posts since 18 Sep, 2003 from Silicon Valley
Hi gangadeptio wrote:thx for a nice reply,
I guessed it is the cpu fan and not so much the vent fans, however the sum of pure air-flow noise is pretty high...
The rubbers will definately take care of cpu-fan vibration a lot, good idea! The Intel Core 2 Duo need a lot more cooling than the AMD turion and athlon used in the slower receptors. I'll set up Cooler Master V10 (21dB) on my wish list.
Anyone else who's been hushing a 2 pro?
//Eystein
The noise you hear is the vibration from the dual ball bearing CPU fan coupling into the CPU heatsink shroud. We choose to use the dual ball bearing fans for the CPU cooler due to the fact they have an excellent track record for reliability over the long term (as opposed to need bearings that can fail after just a year or two of use).
We use a super quiet fluid bearing fan as the system fan, so if that is what you are hearing it is because its broken or your 3 year old stuck a toothpick into the fan!
We've done quite a bit of experimenting with quieting things down further, and we have decided to migrate to a fluid bearing fan for the CPU. Our initial fear was that the fluid bearing fans won't hold up as well on the road, but we've now convinced ourselves that they are suitable for our purposes. Also, quiet fans tend to be reduced airflow, and we want a certain amount of airflow thorugh the CPU heatsink to ensure cool operation even while performing during a heatwave in Arizona... or in Dubai... or in Australia.
We can offer customers who really find the noise objectionable a replacement fan, but we do not recommend modifying or installing a non-factory fan as it is imperative that you get the correct amount of airflow through the system. We've designed Receptor so that it won't overheat with a fan failure, which means the system fan can fail and the system will still work fine, the CPU fan can fail and the system will work fan, and the CPU heatsink (which is solid copper and weighs almost 2 pounds) is capable of keeping the system within acceptable operating temperature for quite some time before thermal shutdown! However, given that for optimal component life things have to be kept cool, we do not recommend long term operation of the unit with fans disconnected. (IN fact I learned an interesting thing doing some reasearch on this topic: for every 10-degrees F increase in the ambient temp you run a semiconductor it shortens its life by 50%! Yikes!)
We have a custom-made fan from SILENX of Korea that we are now using on the CPU cooler. It is substantially quieter than the dual ball bearing fan because it doesn't have the vibration that the dual ball bearing fan does.
If you would like to purchase one we can sell you one for $20.00 US plus postage, and a capable computer tech can install it for you in maybe 10 minutes.
Cheers
Bryan