For years I have been trying to get the best and most authentic Jazz Guitar sound. I am talking about that Barney Kessel, Joe Pass, Jim Hall, Johnny Smith, Wes Montgomery sound... a real acoustic Gibson that is being played through a Polytone or Fender Jazz Master. You know the sound!
Well, I think I am actually getting close. Try this combination: use the Sfz plugin with its Jazz Guitar sound font and couple it with the Guitar Rig2/"Tweedman" patch as an effect. It is simple, but sounds really great... warm and fat! The next best thing to that seems to be FM7/Guitar2 with the Guitar Rig2/"Wes Montgomery" patch. FM7 works, but it is not as fat or warm. Since I discovered the Sfz/Guitar Rig sound, I just can't stop playing it. I might just change my middle name to "Tal Farlow". Ha! Ha!
If you found a better playable jazz guitar sound, I would love to hear your solution?
The best Jazz Guitar sound
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- KVRist
- 309 posts since 11 Sep, 2005 from Virginia
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- KVRAF
- 3462 posts since 17 Sep, 2006 from Fredericksburg, VA USA
Charlie Christian - what ever he used - whatever you have to use to get that sound. 
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 309 posts since 11 Sep, 2005 from Virginia
Ooops, sorry I forgot Charlie. He was a great one1 There is a good blues song called "Salute to Charlie Christian." We used to use this as our break song. Very cool.Integratron wrote:Charlie Christian - what ever he used - whatever you have to use to get that sound.
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- KVRAF
- 3645 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
all those people really do have different sounds if you listen closely. But in saying so, i hope one day to have a nice big fat old jazz guitar, for now tho, i can get a reasonable sound with my variax and pod xt.
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- KVRist
- 429 posts since 8 May, 2003 from Athens, Greece
Thanks for the tip. I have been trying to reproduce that sound too, I even started a thread here some time ago. I ended up using a Hollowbody patch from Sampletank or Sonic Synth with the same Guitar Rig 2 patch that you suggest, but I wasn't happy with it. It needed lots of eq and still sounded a bit harsh and brittle at higher pitches. I will definitely try your suggestion.
Which soundfont are you using for the guitar? I was not aware that sfz comes with its own soundfonts
Which soundfont are you using for the guitar? I was not aware that sfz comes with its own soundfonts
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 309 posts since 11 Sep, 2005 from Virginia
I downloaded a free-bee soundfont bank from SF2MIDI called "SGM-180 V1.5 sfz". It is a General MIDI sound font. The patch that I use is Patch #26: Jazz Guitar. The rest of the sounds are just mediocre, but it is worth it for the Jazz Guitar. It is quite mellow and does not have any byte, but with the GR2 effect it does sound pretty realistic and is fun to play.cimoc wrote:Thanks for the tip. I have been trying to reproduce that sound too, I even started a thread here some time ago. I ended up using a Hollowbody patch from Sampletank or Sonic Synth with the same Guitar Rig 2 patch that you suggest, but I wasn't happy with it. It needed lots of eq and still sounded a bit harsh and brittle at higher pitches. I will definitely try your suggestion.
Which soundfont are you using for the guitar? I was not aware that sfz comes with its own soundfonts
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- KVRAF
- 3645 posts since 27 Nov, 2003 from beach side australia
i tried going to that sf2midi site but looks like the registration system is broken and couldnt download anything 
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 25 Aug, 2005
My favorite jazz guitar is from a converted Gigastudio lib from Bardstown, coupled with any good tube amp mild overdrive, I get a quite playable and authentic-feeling George Benson-ish timbre. sfz plays it just fine.