Receptor :: Only 2Go RAM max :(

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Hello,

I will be buying Receptors but I've two questions:

1) Why 2Go of Ram Max ? Is really not much !
And normally, in a 32bit system, 4Go is supported, no ?
Maybe a Receptor Rev D in 64bit ?

2) The "Vienna" collection will be supported ? (with Direct-Install ?)
(and Miroslav ?)

Thank you :)
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Hi,
This is a question which crosses my mind also - I am also considering a Receptor to use in my church with a electronic drum set to trigger drum samples in Battery3 as a stand-alone drum module. I've looked at the processor of the Pro Receptor and read that it came out in 2005 so now I'm woundering if after I buy a receptor will Muse Research come out with a new unit which will allow the user to bump up the ram above 2GB and use faster processors. It seems that a updated unit is due and I believe one is probably in the works. For me this will be a purchas which I can not afford to screw up and I think I speak for more than just myself.
Bob
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Exactly !

I've need about 5 Receptors and if an update is underway, It would be nice that Muse Research said it.
Like this, I can wait for the update.

And nobody know if Vienna Symphonic Library is compatible ?

Thank you :)
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i dont think the company would actively encourage its customers to ship their units back for an upgrade just prior to the release of a new higher spec hardware unit ??

im kinda hoping i might be"locked" in to my PRO C unit for the next few years to like keep things simple
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I also figured I'd deal with decision later and went for a C.

There are going to be many many options available in the PC worlds in two years with 64-bit quad core and 8 gig or more RAM and 10,000K drives.
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@ alanshortt :: Yes, of course.
But do you believe that an update will happen?

Infact, I fear that 2GB is not enough for my use. :?
I would separate each section in a Receptor (wood, strings, brass, percussion).
Do you think that 2GB is enough to install EastWest, Miroslav, and so on. ?

P.S. Can I put 2x 2Go in my receptor ?
Because there has 2 slots.
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nobody ? :?
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[quote="PianoPariss"]nobody ? :?[/quote]

Sorry, we've been pretty busy lately and Farhan had his appendix removed... he's okay now, but its been crazy since NAMM.

Long-winded response warning... Long-winded response warning... Long-winded response warning.

Riddle me this, Batman: When is 2GB not 2GB?

The answer of course is when it is in Receptor, where our custom Linux OS is FAR more efficient at RAM utilization than a typical PC or Mac. Alot of this has to do with the way a computer manages process address space. In fact, I'd urge you see how much RAM is available in your PC or Mac just idling. You'll likely see many processes running and a far amount of RAM being "consumed". Receptor is far more "focussed" on doing one task - running plug-ins, and as a result, we aren't "distracted" by other processes that computers have to have running. Receptor is a terrible word processor, useless for checking your email, and woeful at supporting a variety of USB printers... but we're far more efficient as a result!

We have seen some systems that consume 40% of the available RAM just idling, whereas Receptor idles with about 5% usage. My personal experience is that you can load up a ton of plug-ins and make them available for instant access (read: snapshots!) and there is plenty of space available... and when you start running multiple plug-ins at once, you are far more likely to run out of hard drive bandwidth before you run out of RAM. So whereas it is tempting to think that RAM is the "limiting reagent" in a system, but in actuality it is far more subtle than that.

As for moving much beyond 2GB, as long as the VST spec and our particular OS is 32-bits, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense, especially since a 32-bit OS can't address more than 4GB. So the dilemma is whether or not it makes sense to go to a 64-bit OS so as to address more memory but only to have to be managing twice as much data at all times...

It would be nice if RAM was like horsepower in a car... add more horsepower and the car performs better, as long as you do so without increasing weight. In a computer, however, it seems that there are some definite examples of diminishing returns that challenge the previously accepted adage of "More RAM is always better". More RAM means extended address spaces means greater bit depth in the OS means more over head means more stress on permanent storage (hard drives) etc. Unfortunately, there are several examples of this in modern computing: a dual core processor is not 2X more powerful than a single core... it is in fact about 20%, and in some cases can even be WORSE than a single core. Think that 4 or 8 cores gives you 4 or 8 times as much computing power? Think again... Amdahls law tells us that doubling the number of processors delivers about a 20% increase in performance... For lack of a better analogy, its hard to add horsepower to a computer without increasing weight, resulting in the "hummer effect". You heard it here first, friends.

And as for upgrades, we definitely encourage people to get into the Rev C hardware since it supports SATA drives and it offers better performance overall compared with the older revisions. But having said that, ANY Receptor will do exactly what it does today in the future, and for many many people, that is exactly what they want. So honestly, if Receptor does what you need and you are happy with it, then by all means stay happy.

Of course there will be future versions of hardware, after all parts availability, if nothing else, dictates that a design will eventually have to change. However, we do view Receptor as a platform, and as such, we don't intend to leave people "stranded" without a way to keep up with the latest / greatest. Most companies don't do this; they expect you to dump your old product and buy the new one. Well we think differently, and we hope we can keep people current with all of the benefits our technology can provide as long as it remains feasible.

One other question that was asked involved VSL support... VSL is Synchrosoft protected, which as you all know is a feature we intend to support in a future release. Hopefully not too far in the future, too.

All the best

Groovology
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I have 2gb installed since from the early days of my Rev B Receptor, when i installed these 2gb ram i didn't substantially noticed any difference as benefit in cpu consunption, excepted for the ram display as 2gb in the setup menù.
To me, my Receptor cpu goes overloaded too easy, it seems to be this way with 3-4 plugs instances (eg. Predator, Cameleon 5000, ABSynth 4) and reading this topic i developed the idea my ram is installed correctly but not working properly since from the beginning.
Is there anyone who wants to give me his opinion about this (supposed) problem, showing to me his usage meaning as number of vst instances up to cpu overload?
Thanks in advance,
PGi - NL3
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nl3, I think you are just observing the limits of the CPU. I have a rev.B and see similar performance.
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tjodoin wrote:nl3, I think you are just observing the limits of the CPU. I have a rev.B and see similar performance.
I think so too, anyway reading about Groovology saying "tons of plugs on Receptor"...
Maybe on Rev C and/or Receptor Pro!

PGi-NL3
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Thank you very much for the answer ;)

Pâriss G.
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