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Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Feb 28, 2008 3:47 am

mcdonaldold1 wrote:Urs was talking about anamark .tun files and I sent him some and he was never heard from again...

Well, I answered in the other thread that you started. I would have answered in an extra email if you were in my customer database. Unfortunately I can not devote much time on email support for non-customers, hence I keep it in this forum.

Btw, are you using them in "Zebra" or in "Z3ta"?

slowriot · Post by **slowriot** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 11:45 pm

Urs wrote:
replicator wrote:The filter frequency range is "12tET-centric", slowriot mentioned it in an earlier post.
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The filters' KeyFollow use the very same value for their tuning that the oscillators use (as does the KeyFollow modulator)... thus, patches using self-oscillating filters (i.e. XMF stuff) should be microtuned just right...

However, any tuning/modulation in semitones is tuning/modulation in welltempered semitones. Anything else would involve a lot more maths, making microtunability a relatively cpu expensive feature...

Cheers,

Urs

The keyfollow is indeed microtuning compatible, and Zebra has succesfully been my go to synth for some time now in microtonal projects.

However, some parameters, such as filter frequency are definitely geared towards 12tET.

This isn't too much of a problem. As I assume that these 12tET values are locked to the global tuning (i.e. '0' is the base note of the .tun scale, and '12' is 1 octave above this) and so you can do ok with key follow and course/fine adjustments. It is not 100% ideal but is much more workable than many other plugs.

I have been meaning to ask about how possible it is to be making things a little more microtone friendly, as this feature of note values in 12tET instead of hertz is prominant across U-He plugs, and I seem to be using more and more (every plug except MFM atm).

I understand that it is difficult, as making values 'musically useful' is a step forward in a helpful direction, and as not many people are using microtunings it is a tricky balancing act.

I'm not urgently requesting any changes, as most things are quite workable so far. Maybe an option to see hertz for some parameters in some plugs (eg Runciter filter frequency, maybe in Filterscape). as hertz are a little more natural to work with when using alternate tunings. (and with, say, max/msp it might be possible to do some of the microtonal work outside of the plug). [edit... though I guess if controlling values w/ max it would be possible to convert the logarithmic values to hertz yourself.]

Hmm, long post sorry. Been thinking about asking these questions for a while, and accidentally came across this old post. Maybe should email?

cheers

Mark

overseasmusician · Post by **overseasmusician** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:44 am

Hi guys,

still couldnt get zebra to find my tuning files. I tried putting them in the
"u-he/Tunefiles" or "~/Library/Application Support/u-he" folders but they doesnt seem to exist in my hard drive!!

please if anyone knows please do reply.Im using the demo version of zebra on a vista laptop.

Thanks

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:03 am

overseasmusician wrote:Hi guys,

still couldnt get zebra to find my tuning files. I tried putting them in the
"u-he/Tunefiles" or "~/Library/Application Support/u-he" folders but they doesnt seem to exist in my hard drive!!

please if anyone knows please do reply.Im using the demo version of zebra on a vista laptop.

Thanks

You're looking at the Mac structure. For Windows they're here:

C:\Program Files\u-he\Tunefiles\

Cheers,

Urs

overseasmusician · Post by **overseasmusician** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:43 am

thanks for the reply Urs.

Unfortunately, I still cant find it in the directory you mentioned.

its like it doesnt exist. As I mentioned before Im using vista, so does that have any effect or something? .. I donno, Ill just reinstall again hopefully itll show up.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Tue Jul 21, 2009 7:18 am

Oh, maybe you're in Vista's UAC mode. In that mode Zebra might not be able to write to the Program Files directory. Then I'd suggest to download the "pre-installed version for Receptor" from my website. It puts everything in Vstplugins\ instead of Program Files\u-he\ - which might help with file permission issues...

Urs

overseasmusician · Post by **overseasmusician** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:54 am

still no luck. I've installed it twice with the UAC off. I done it with the preinstalled version and normal version also.... and still no luck!!

dont know what to do else

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 9:19 am

In the pre-installed version, just create a folder "Tunefiles" within Zebra2.data. Put your .tun files there. That should do!

Urs

overseasmusician · Post by **overseasmusician** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 7:38 am

THANK YOU VERY MUCH... IT REALLY WORKED THANKS A BUNCH!

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KVR Audio

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