Collab -- jazz waltz
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
here's the link again--tongsong wrote:so what should i do now?wait for a accompaintment, or i can contribute one ?
http://www.kara-moon.com/download_song. ... ad_id=4510
couple of choruses after my noodling you can solo on
this is a pretty free-form collab -- one, because I'm thinking maybe more people will participate this way -- and two, because I'm on dial-up and there's no way in hell I could collect everybody's takes and compile them into a final master
hey Watto, just sitting here writing a lead sheet for the next one (yes, it's another song I can't actually play!:hihi: ). This one's truly obscure, if it's in any fake book in the known universe I can't find it. Exquisite tune though
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Hey, beboop, excellent playing there, also, quite some authentic sound, may I ask what you're using? Mainly interested in the guitar but a little info on your recording path wouldn't harm either.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
hi Sascha -- the guitar's a cheapo, a Dean Stylist I bought off eBay for $175. 15" plywood archtop, build quality isn't great but it's a nice design and sounds good.
The amp sim is Juicy 77, with just a touch of the Kjaerhus freebie reverb. That signal is panned a bit left, and also sent to the cubase Double Delay with the two delays panned hard right and left.
The dry guitar signal is also copied to another track, with no effects (or I think maybe a compressor used for a little gain boost), bass rolled way off, panned center. That track by itself is a pretty thin, nasal sound, but combined with the Juicy 77 track it seems to add a little prescence.
Anyway, cheap guitar, freebie plugs, lots of trial and error
You wanta play some? I know the rhythm track isn't much, kind of wanted to get things moving here quickly. Next one will be better
The amp sim is Juicy 77, with just a touch of the Kjaerhus freebie reverb. That signal is panned a bit left, and also sent to the cubase Double Delay with the two delays panned hard right and left.
The dry guitar signal is also copied to another track, with no effects (or I think maybe a compressor used for a little gain boost), bass rolled way off, panned center. That track by itself is a pretty thin, nasal sound, but combined with the Juicy 77 track it seems to add a little prescence.
Anyway, cheap guitar, freebie plugs, lots of trial and error
You wanta play some? I know the rhythm track isn't much, kind of wanted to get things moving here quickly. Next one will be better
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- KVRAF
- 13444 posts since 14 Nov, 2000 from Hannover / Germany
Hi beboop, thanks for the info. Shows what you can do once you know your stuff.
Need to get me one of those full body jazz guitars one day. My Ibanez 335 clone (pre Artist series), while being absolutely great (probably better than most originals), doesn't sound any close to that.
Apart from that, I still need to finish configuring my new Macbook (the old one broke completely, *sigh*...), but of course that's more or less just an excuse. The truth being that in the last months (for a variety of reasons), I've been absolutely uninspired to even pick my guitar up at home for other reasons than to practise for some jobs. Let alone firing up whatever sequencer to record something (hence my absence on KVR for almost half a year or so).
But things seem to be getting better, so I might be up one day sooner or later to take part in whatever collaboration you folks come up with.
Need to get me one of those full body jazz guitars one day. My Ibanez 335 clone (pre Artist series), while being absolutely great (probably better than most originals), doesn't sound any close to that.
Nah, I'm not that much of a jazzer. Besides, one guitar is enough for this thing and you're doing absolutely fine.beboop wrote: You wanta play some? I know the rhythm track isn't much, kind of wanted to get things moving here quickly. Next one will be better
Apart from that, I still need to finish configuring my new Macbook (the old one broke completely, *sigh*...), but of course that's more or less just an excuse. The truth being that in the last months (for a variety of reasons), I've been absolutely uninspired to even pick my guitar up at home for other reasons than to practise for some jobs. Let alone firing up whatever sequencer to record something (hence my absence on KVR for almost half a year or so).
But things seem to be getting better, so I might be up one day sooner or later to take part in whatever collaboration you folks come up with.
There are 3 kinds of people:
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
Those who can do maths and those who can't.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
What's this... a jazz collab?
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Heheh, okay.Watto wrote:
If YOU'RE joining in, I'll wait until you've done bass
Beboop, any chance for a bass-less version? Otherwise maybe I'll just EQ it out (though that never completely takes out the bass) temporarily.
EDIT: Never mind, I guess you're on dialup, and the EQing thing will work well enough.
Last edited by Gregjazz on Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
yes, there is! I'd say there's an excellent chance of a bass-less version being posted to this very topic within, oh, the next twenty-four hours or so.Gregjazz wrote:
Beboop, any chance for a bass-less version? Otherwise maybe I'll just EQ it out (though that never completely takes out the bass) temporarily.
Any chance we could also make that a drum-less version?
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Oh I forgot, I want fries with that, too.beboop wrote:yes, there is! I'd say there's an excellent chance of a bass-less version being posted to this very topic within, oh, the next twenty-four hours or so.Gregjazz wrote:
Beboop, any chance for a bass-less version? Otherwise maybe I'll just EQ it out (though that never completely takes out the bass) temporarily.
Any chance we could also make that a drum-less version?
Hahah, no problem it's working fine with EQ.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
nah, seriously, it's absolutely no problem to put up a bass-less version! The bit about drum-less was just a droll way of asking if you'd like to also do drums, the existing ones are pretty utilitarian.Gregjazz wrote:
Oh I forgot, I want fries with that, too.
Hahah, no problem it's working fine with EQ.
Well I'll get the bass-less track up here shortly
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
yeah, your Ibanez is a much nicer and more versatile guitar -- the Stylist does do that one sound really well though. Really comfortable to hold, too, the shape is pretty close to an OM or a classical, but shallower (about 3" iirc).Sascha Franck wrote: Need to get me one of those full body jazz guitars one day. My Ibanez 335 clone (pre Artist series), while being absolutely great (probably better than most originals), doesn't sound any close to that.
well when you feel up to it drop in and take a chorus or so -- kind of hoping we can keep one of these going more or less continuously, by keeping them short and de-centralized, everybody gets space to solo and nobody gets stuck having to mix it all down. well, we'll see -- so far, so good!
Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
Well I finished playing in the bass track for the whole backing. (and a bass solo, but on a different track)beboop wrote:nah, seriously, it's absolutely no problem to put up a bass-less version! The bit about drum-less was just a droll way of asking if you'd like to also do drums, the existing ones are pretty utilitarian.Gregjazz wrote:
Oh I forgot, I want fries with that, too.
Hahah, no problem it's working fine with EQ.
Well I'll get the bass-less track up here shortly
MP3s:
http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/Emily-Bass.mp3
http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/Emily-BassSolo.mp3
And in case someone wants to align them in a project file (I find MP3 conversion adds a little silence at the beginning)... The backing track is 132 BPM.
WAV files:
http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/Emily-Backing.wav
http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/Emily-Bass.wav
http://www.gregjazz.com/upload/Emily-BassSolo.wav
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 179 posts since 1 May, 2007 from Apartment Zero
wait, wait -- I'm lost!
Gregjazz, what is emily-backing.wav? Did you do a new backing, or is that the old one with the bass eq'd out?
Anyway, here's the bass-less track, 132bpm with a 2 bar count-in
http://www.kara-moon.com/download_song. ... ad_id=4519
And in case we have, or get, new drums, here's the guitar only --
http://www.kara-moon.com/download_song. ... ad_id=4518
(yes, dial-up is a cruel, cruel affliction. You guys living in the developed nations have no idea how we suffer!)
edit: listening to the track with your bass -- blessed relief! Now it sounds like music dl'ing the solo now...
Gregjazz, what is emily-backing.wav? Did you do a new backing, or is that the old one with the bass eq'd out?
Anyway, here's the bass-less track, 132bpm with a 2 bar count-in
http://www.kara-moon.com/download_song. ... ad_id=4519
And in case we have, or get, new drums, here's the guitar only --
http://www.kara-moon.com/download_song. ... ad_id=4518
(yes, dial-up is a cruel, cruel affliction. You guys living in the developed nations have no idea how we suffer!)
edit: listening to the track with your bass -- blessed relief! Now it sounds like music
dl'ing the solo now...Yes. That's a human ear, all right.
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- "The" Jazz
- 4614 posts since 18 Aug, 2004 from California, United States
No, it's the same exact backing as you posted, but as a WAV file... also I wanted to make sure it aligned with my tracks, because when you encode something as an MP3 it'll add like a quarter or eighth of a second delay at the beginning. I may have clipped off any silence at the beginning of the MP3 when tempo-aligning it.beboop wrote:wait, wait -- I'm lost!
Gregjazz, what is emily-backing.wav? Did you do a new backing, or is that the old one with the bass eq'd out?
I used to have dial-up for the longest time, so I know what you mean.beboop wrote: (yes, dial-up is a cruel, cruel affliction. You guys living in the developed nations have no idea how we suffer!)