Muse Research

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Fri May 09, 2008 11:00 pm

Two more days until the end of the week!!

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:43 pm

I spoke too soon.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Sun May 11, 2008 10:55 pm

Talk Show Host wrote:I spoke too soon.

Two reasons I don't own a Receptor:
"Muse do say, though, that any plug-in that strictly adheres to the Windows VST 2.0 specifications should work just fine." - Sound On Sound 2005 Review

"Direct Install coming soon" - here, there, everywhere

They are already falling WAY behind current technology and don't seem to be interested in catching up even with features they control. That doesn't bode well for the hardware every being refreshed to be anywhere near current. Plus, personally I'm wishing they didn't pretty much hitch their wagon to mostly live keyboard players. Autotune being the most current release is good for the effects-using market share but it still seems obviously aimed at live keyboard players. Seems that many pros that were planning on using Receptor for tours (Banks, Emerson IIRC) ended up using the Oasys or something else. I think that says a lot. Sorry, I know it is the hand that feeds us around here but it is a mighty slow and stodgy hand. I'd love to see Receptor kick the competition's ass (like similarly empty-promises laden V-Rack folks) but it doesn't look good. I was ready to drop nearly 3K on a Receptor solution until I did my research. I can't be alone there.

supersor · Post by **supersor** » Mon May 12, 2008 6:51 pm

Acoutistic wrote:Hey supersor - following directions gleaned from this forum, I got Battery 3 working on Receptor a few weeks ago. Runs well - I'm very very happy with it. The install involved obtaining root access on Receptor and doing a bit of tweaking (including copying info into the Receptor registry). A hassle, yes, but definitely worth it. If you're interested, respond and I'll point you to the relevant how-tos.

M

That would be much appreciated

Acoutistic.... Just a note though... while I can find my way around windows with little problems... but as far as linux goes, I'm a super newbie... Thanks again....

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Tue May 13, 2008 7:28 am

Even if direct install appears by the end of the millennium, I highly doubt it will work with Altiverb 6/Speakerphone, Waves, Kore 2, Nexus, or Fab Four.

deRoland · Post by **deRoland** » Tue May 13, 2008 8:19 am

I have to agree i'd love that! Especially waves and audio ease stuff is very high on my wish list. I'm not a keyboard player, i use receptor as a sound module during live performance of electronic music. I have to say i really love the box. I get up to 8 channels of VSTi +FX out of there, can change any single on the fly by sending program changes and the sound won't stop! I got the one with komplete pre-installed so i've got a lot of cool stuff on there working. A lot of free plugs are also working and it's becoming a more and more complete production box. I still miss some great eqs and comps though.

I think the receptor is one of the most efficient ways to run plugins! And remember; MIDI OVER LAN!!!! much better timing than when using almost any modern MIDI interface.. I think the receptor should be aimed more at electronic live musicians then at keyboard players. The potential for electronic musicians is enormous, especially once youve got your head around plugin automation via NRPN. I found my way, but i think it could be implemented better via uniwire, so it becomes easier. This is my setup:

Ableton Live with lots of MIDI channels and MIDI clips
to
Uniwire
to
Receptor

MIDI controller
MIDI to
Receptor (for plugin parameter control)

Only a small percentage of my computers CPU is used, which has a lot of advantages for live musicians; stability. The receptor is stable as shit!!!!! Never have been able to crash it while live performance. You can basically load like 5 times it's capacity, it won't crash, the audio will only start to get glitches.
The combination of Ableton Live and receptor finally gives me what ableton promises; live performance of electronic music.

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Wed May 14, 2008 8:21 pm

TODAY IS THE DAY!!

that nothing happens.

deRoland · Post by **deRoland** » Wed May 14, 2008 9:59 pm

LOL almost got me there. Nice one.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Thu May 15, 2008 12:56 am

Talk Show Host wrote:TODAY IS THE DAY!!

that nothing happens.

Is that the poster they have tacked up over at Muse? *ducks*

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:04 am

24 hours, until the end of the week.

Talk Show Host · Post by **Talk Show Host** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:10 am

farhan wrote:Just a quick update:

If all goes well, Direct Install will be beta this coming week if not next. We encountered several difficulties, specifically during a K4 to K5 update using DI. Hence the delay in getting this out sooner. Thanks a lot for your patience and continued support.

farhan

Notice "will be in beta." THIS MEANS IT STILL HAS TO BE TESTED?? WTF.

HERE COMES 3RD QUARTER.

Let's take bets! I say we won't see this crap until November at the earliest (in order to compete with the SMPro audio modules).

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Sat May 17, 2008 5:03 pm

Too bad the new breed of competition won't be out until end of the year. That would certainly light a fire under some asses. Though, there's already better hardware available for cheap - just buy a rackable server and interface and load whatever you want.

richwhite9 · Post by **richwhite9** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:17 pm

buscemi wrote:Too bad the new breed of competition won't be out until end of the year. That would certainly light a fire under some asses. Though, there's already better hardware available for cheap - just buy a rackable server and interface and load whatever you want.

There's competition and there's trade offs. An Apple with Mainstage is an alternative. Not all VSTs are Intel Mac compatible.

Intel rack servers are an alternative but by the time a good audio interface is installed the price is about the same as a Receptor. A 4 HD, quad core Xeon 3220 is a heck of alot heavier than a Receptor too (35 lbs). It's a different tool.

The stuff that is compatible with a Receptor works well. Ivory, B4, Scarbee, Kontakt libraries, Kick Ass Brass, Komplete (factory installed), East West 32-bit libraries like Gold and RA, etc. That's a lot of good software that runs on Receptor.

buscemi · Post by **buscemi** » Sat May 17, 2008 6:35 pm

richwhite9 wrote:
buscemi wrote:Too bad the new breed of competition won't be out until end of the year. That would certainly light a fire under some asses. Though, there's already better hardware available for cheap - just buy a rackable server and interface and load whatever you want.
There's competition and there's trade offs. An Apple with Mainstage is an alternative. Not all VSTs are Intel Mac compatible.

Intel rack servers are an alternative but by the time a good audio interface is installed the price is about the same as a Receptor. A 4 HD, quad core Xeon 3220 is a heck of alot heavier than a Receptor too (35 lbs). It's a different tool.

The stuff that is compatible with a Receptor works well. Ivory, B4, Scarbee, Kontakt libraries, Kick Ass Brass, Komplete (factory installed), East West 32-bit libraries like Gold and RA, etc. That's a lot of good software that runs on Receptor.

Wow, how apples-to-oranges of you! You can get a 1U server with more RAM and potential to have MUCH more RAM that is the same weight if not lighter - also, is the Receptor quad core? The AMD Turion is dual-core. You can run every Windows VST (like was claimed early on by Muse and is claimed - and will likely have the same results - by competitors' about upcoming products) on a 1U higher-spec'd Windows server. All for less. I buy better-spec'd servers for less on a monthly basis. It IS a different tool. And apparently, to many, a better tool since you can get something more current and upgradeable (even if you go up to a 2U server that is still lighter or the same weight as a receptor) that runs all Windows VSTs so the claim can actually be followed through upon. Plus, even Windows O.S. and Dell BIOS updates come out faster than any update for the Receptor so far. So when you put apples to apples it seems a bit more of a fair comparison, no? I know - you can't plug it right in and get to work but those trying to use the vaporware Direct Install functionality probably could handle the little bit of work provided to get a better base unit for less and upgrade it later. Seems lots of folks are working with getting ssh access and other hacky workarounds on the Receptor anyway so that "easy plug it right in" philosophy isn't universal. I hope constructive criticism helps, since there's a lot of distance to cover to get back to being even remotely competitive IMO.

richwhite9 · Post by **richwhite9** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:35 pm

I guess I don't understand your reason for posting.

If a Windows rack mount server fits your needs better then why not buy one and move on?

I have both and am happy. Each fill a niche.

Muse Research

KVR Audio

Direct Install? Still waiting.