ndcMIDI plugins disagreeing with Mu.Lab?

[infectedpimple]

First, to Jo, I just want to say that Mu.Lab is a really great piece of work even here in its young life. I migrated recently from Kristal Audio Engine looking for something with a little more flexibility as my noise making abilities have grown a bit, and Mu.Lab turned out to be just the thing I needed. I'm really looking forward to seeing how much better it's going to get in subsequent releases.

Mu.Lab doesn't seem to get along with Niall Moody's midi plugins though, unless I'm just plain doing something wrong. I made my sequence in the composer, directed it to a rack, inserted an ndcMIDI plug in that rack and had a synth plugin right after that, and these are all pre-fader. With my rack focused properly, I try to play, but the synth maketh no sound. I removed the ndcMIDI plug and it worked fine. Reinserted the ndcMidi plug, and nothing again. I even tried setting them up in the MPA outside of the racks, but had no luck there either. It just seems like the ndc plugs don't want to let the midi data through, but I've not had any such issues with these particular plugins in other hosts, such as Hermann Seib's VSThost. Other midi effect plugs, like the pizmidi plugs and Tobybear's all seem to work in Mu.Lab without a hitch. So I was wondering if this was a known issue and something fixable in Mu.Lab, or if it's just something about the ndc plugs that would leave me up the stream without a paddle? It's not a major bug by any means, and would hardly turn me off from using your great software, but they've been good tools for me and if Mu.Lab and the ndc plugs could forge a working relationship at some point, that'd be really cool.

Oh, I'm on WinXP SP3, using mu.lab 1.1. Thanks again, and good luck with the next release! I'm very excited for it.

best regards,

Jason

[arakula]

To help the developers a bit...

the ndcMidi PlugIns are MIDI-only; i.e., they have 0 audio inputs and outputs.

[muzycian]

There indeed is a problem.

The problem is caused by the fact the ndc plugs send the events to the vst host at a non-standard moment (inside processEvents instead of inside processReplacing).

MU.LAB 2.0 will also support this situation and so the ndc plugs will work fine in 2.0

Thanks for reporting this!

[infectedpimple]

Ah, that's great! I'm glad it was a fairly easy resolution and I'm happy I could do my little part, however incredibly minor, to help you make Mu.Lab a smidgen more cooperative with those more esoterically-coded VSTs.

thanks again, good luck with the coding!

- j