KVR Audio

elv · Post by **elv** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:56 pm

In FLstudio8.
I loaded Dmin-Koto-loop, click loop and then sample.And got a access violation at address 410F078A.

mdsp · Post by **mdsp** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:11 pm

elv wrote:Sorry if I am repeating this bug,this thread is getting a litle bit on the long side to check it all out.

Was trying Uvi in eXT2 but could not do anything as cpu went to 100% straigt after I loaded the plug, and I had to terminate the host.

Works here in eXT2. could you tell me more about you system?

elv · Post by **elv** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 2:29 pm

Gateway laptop
1,8ghz AMD 64 Turion
1gig ram
Behringer usb audio card
ASIO4ALL drivers

EDIT:Just remembered that I was useing the latest beta of XT2,downaloded the latest staple version and uvi loads fine there.

mdsp wrote:
elv wrote:Sorry if I am repeating this bug,this thread is getting a litle bit on the long side to check it all out.

Was trying Uvi in eXT2 but could not do anything as cpu went to 100% straigt after I loaded the plug, and I had to terminate the host.
Works here in eXT2. could you tell me more about you system?

frankbou · Post by **frankbou** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:58 pm

mdsp wrote:
frankbou wrote:Olivier, here is a few things with 1.0.1:
1- Still had a few crashes bringing down Cubase 4.1(WinXP) while reloading patches, however I have no steps, just happened randomely.
do you mean reloading a song, or a multi?

R- No just a patch in the browser, mainly when the browser is open in overlay and removing/replacing exsiting patches

2- FX are still using CPU when there is no input, including Aux
This is something that needs to be done carefully with FXs having a tail, so for now we're staying on the safe-side. We might

R- We might... well what I'm saying is that CPU is use even if nothing is send to UVIW, example load any patch and load convolution reverbs and look at the CPU usage in your host it will grow, but that shouldn't have an impact since it isn't used an only kicks in when you send midi data to the channel.

3- CPU seems quite high if I compare polyphony with Kontakt 3 on lead or pad patches even if no FX is used. Is it possible that it is quite long before CPU usage is release after the sound drop?
if you have insert FXs we're waiting for the tail of each fx to end (if it ends) to bypass the fx so it can take some time.

R- That make sense I notice some of these patch using a delay.

4- Enabling the UI of the plugin is quite long in Cubase. It takes about 5-10 second for the UI to open on an existing instance of the plugin and while it's happening it freezes up Cubase. Again I will compare with Kontakt, but you can close or open the GUI without any noticable delay.
do you allow access to internet when working in cubase?

R- No this machine isn't connected to the internet. Do you think it is the RSS feed... may you should add a switch to put it Off, this delay right now is really anoying.

Merci.
mais de rien

frankbou · Post by **frankbou** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:00 pm

AlainJ UVI wrote:
andywright67 wrote:To the devs,

Will this plug allow me to use charlie retro organ on Intel Mac? I still use it, but on my PPC Mac as I haven't upgraded to plugsound pro nor wanted to pay any upgrade fee.

Can I import the .dat?

Thanks
UVI Workstation is fully compatible with all the UVI Soundcards, including the retro organ one, but it will not read .dat. We will have soon some cheap upgrade plans for existing customers (when the public beta cycle will be over). Check www.ultimatesoundbank.com, or contact info@ultimatesoundbank.com for more info.

Alain, does this include MOTU MSI users as well since it is using a .dat file?
I hope in this case that there isn't going to have an upgrade fee...

Merci.

blatanville · Post by **blatanville** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:08 pm

is there a link to just the manual...I'm at work and don't want to d/l the whole 81 MB again...

thanks!

soproductive · Post by **soproductive** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:33 pm

i completely reinstalled the latest version of fl studio 8 and the 1.0.1 version of the uviworkstation. still crashes!

fl studio 8
windows xp service pack 3

i'd like to use it in fl studio

Bass108 · Post by **Bass108** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:01 pm

ok i am trying to keep this as organized as possible, i hope its working

italics are comments back

Bass108 wrote:
- aiffs don't seem to allow me to select slice, wavs are fine though
- on the note of slice, its weird that for slice when it is not mapped, it will play from where the loop stopped last - that can be cool depending on what you are doing
audio files can only be switched to slice mode if they already have loop markers.

there are multiple synchronisation modes for the loops (Position, Tempo, None) as well as multiple triggering modes (Immediate, Beat, Bar). That should be enough to cover most uses

- Ok. I am starting to understanding this better now. Seems any audio I import will not allow for stretch or map. Can I only do this with imported rex files? I find it so creative to make up my own loops and then have the ability to map it over the keyboard relatively quickly. I could create bass line or whatever and mangle it! but if the only way to do this is through recycle it will have to be another step to get there when i could be wishing for aiff or wavs to have slice with a map feature.

- and why is that play functions in uvi only work for stretch? not really a big deal though.

- in terms of implementation, here are some suggestions for loops:
- the ability to toggle loops with midi notes would be nice. what i mean is, say i hit c3, the loop sticks and will stop when I hit c3 again. there are more functions and commands i just can't think of them right...but a toggle would really help. Logic utilizes a bunch of different commands for their touch tracks, i can get back to with a list if you like.
- the sample start is cool - but some kind of indication of where it will start would be best. you have the waveform right there - why not have a bar indication where it starts as opposed to this arbitrary percentage.
- some way to change the length of loops i am dragging out by say number of bars or even time. Even the the half/doub does nothing to the audio when I drag n drop it out. I would think it would - but it doesn't.
- usually in logic when I drag an audio file on a track it gives me some indication of how long it is, but when I do this with uvi i do not get any indication at all.

- can't get the browser to recognize .caf or apple loops - it won't work in the apple loop browser in logic and won't even work in the finder
Do you mean the UVIWS browser can't load them, or doesn't see them?
Why do you say it doesn't work either in the apple loop browser and the finder?

- The UVI browser will see the .caf files but it will not load them into a track. I mention the apple loop browser because that is the most convenient way of finding a loop and it has the ability to drag n drop so i thought it would work with uvi. But the finder window doesn't work either. so at the moment it seems impossible to get any apple loop at all to load in uvi. i am holding out to see if i will be able to slice these bad boys...if so then I won't need recycle.

- on the note of not being able to preview .caf at all or even get them to load, aiffs and wavs don't seem to be previewing with playback for me in the browser.

- can't drag audio from arrange onto uvi tracks to load - can do so from the integrated browser in logic though
Can you drag and drop from UVIWS to your Desktop?

- Yes. Drag n Drop is fine from the UVI out to anywhere. I do wish that with logic it would give me a frame of the audio or midi before I dragged it to the track.

Can you drag from the finder to Logic?

- Yes. This is a logic shortcoming now that i think about it. I wish I could just drag a file from the arrange tracks page into uvi, but now I am thinking this is impossible, because logic won't allow it. I can do this other ways from inside the uvi browser or inside the browser in logic - just not from the actual regions in the arrange.
- on this note, logic seems to act up and crash when I am sending audio tracks from inside the session into uvi to trigger. - have some logs I will send

- loading a multi crashes logic (it didn't print out a log) - save is fine though
Using the multi load/save buttons or using aupreset?
the crash with aupreset should be fixed.

- this is isn't an aupreset, which I tested and works great! - this is the multi function inside the uvi. And it is only with load, not save.

- and last, strangely it seems that uvi is crashing my capslock keyboard in logic, it might be the cpu spikes on this old g4 laptop i am testing it on but i have never had this issue before, just all of sudden when I am messing with uvi my capslock keys to play midi are rendered useless and i can't close the capslock window, but everything else in the program and plugin are fine - i don't know
does it also happen with the UVIWS UI closed?

- your right. usually i do have the UI open. I am trying to tweak something while playing and bam! its gone.

- question. adding places is easy and great, but how do i delete a place i don't want anymore?! i have no idea how to do this.

- i had a couple crashes with recording files in logic and loading them in the uvi, which seems to cause crashing like i mentioned earlier.

- had a crash when i selected stretch for one loop.

- and last, the ok button seems to be glitchy and wanting to cause crashes for loops. happened twice to me. (sending log)

thanks! - i'll keep it coming

oh...and my second log i sent to guys at the publicbeta email got sent back to me...will try again.

~jay

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:26 pm

Bass108 wrote: - in terms of implementation, here are some suggestions for loops:
- the ability to toggle loops with midi notes would be nice. what i mean is, say i hit c3, the loop sticks and will stop when I hit c3 again.

Latch mode is what you're looking for.

Bass108 wrote: - the sample start is cool - but some kind of indication of where it will start would be best. you have the waveform right there - why not have a bar indication where it starts as opposed to this arbitrary percentage.

We'll see what we can do about this.

Bass108 wrote: - some way to change the length of loops i am dragging out by say number of bars or even time. Even the the half/doub does nothing to the audio when I drag n drop it out. I would think it would - but it doesn't.

It should. Might be a bug then.

Bass108 wrote: - usually in logic when I drag an audio file on a track it gives me some indication of how long it is, but when I do this with uvi i do not get any indication at all.

We'll take a look. There should be some visual feedback.

Bass108 wrote: - can't get the browser to recognize .caf or apple loops - it won't work in the apple loop browser in logic and won't even work in the finder

We'll check caf files. Should works in theory.

Bass108 wrote: - The UVI browser will see the .caf files but it will not load them into a track. I mention the apple loop browser because that is the most convenient way of finding a loop and it has the ability to drag n drop so i thought it would work with uvi. But the finder window doesn't work either. so at the moment it seems impossible to get any apple loop at all to load in uvi. i am holding out to see if i will be able to slice these bad boys...if so then I won't need recycle.

Slicing non sliced loops is not planned so far.
We've added better support for acid loops though.(next version)

Bass108 wrote: - on the note of not being able to preview .caf at all or even get them to load, aiffs and wavs don't seem to be previewing with playback for me in the browser.[/i]

Bass108 wrote:- can't drag audio from arrange onto uvi tracks to load - can do so from the integrated browser in logic though

If you can DnD audio from arrange to the Finder, it should work in UVIWS.
If not, then ask Logic guys to do native DnD and not a custom one.

Bass108 wrote:- loading a multi crashes logic (it didn't print out a log) - save is fine though

Does this happen all the time when loading this particular multi ?
If yes, Can you send us the multi ?

otristan · Post by **otristan** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:27 pm

soproductive wrote:i completely reinstalled the latest version of fl studio 8 and the 1.0.1 version of the uviworkstation. still crashes!

fl studio 8
windows xp service pack 3

i'd like to use it in fl studio

Maybe the wrapper update is in a separate update ?
FL users that have applied the patch can maybe give you some hints.

Guys ?

Thanks,

Agitator · Post by **Agitator** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:33 pm

the wrapper is part of the whole FL 8 install!

i use the UVI-W with FL8 on a Win XP PC and all works fine!

Agitator · Post by **Agitator** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:32 pm

double post! sorry!

elv · Post by **elv** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:59 pm

Just wnated to say something about this plug, and that is I really, I mean really like it.Alot
The workflow is just so me, and it can handle almost all my sound, be it samples or loops.Been sick home today and I cant stop playing with it uviworkstation.

Sunrider · Post by **Sunrider** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:37 pm

I have to agree! This new beta finally works in Phrazor 1.02 now (v.1.03 seems not to be avaible anymore, just the demo...)!

Good job! And now give your brain a little rest and switch to astral mode! Bonne nuit!

Michaelogoe · Post by **Michaelogoe** » Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:05 pm

Salut UVI TEAM,

Haven't had the time to say thank you, so I say it now
merci beaucoup!

For all your hard work and the opportunity to share the experience and chance to produce a top notch plug-in.

I'll start with the positives:
1. EDIT, FX and LOOP (while one is loaded) tabs help a lot: I don't have to guess what parameter am I tweaking, like I did with Plugsound Pro. I guess this was a graphic card issue, but now seems fine!
2. Some really nice sounds in the demo pack. Can't wait for big ones to go out on your web site!
3. Other general UI improvements, like displays for fx presets and so on.
4. MIDI learn on all FX parameters!

And now some issues that make it still hard to use.
First some system info:
WINDOWS XP, Media Center Edition, Service Pack 2, Intel T2050 dual core @ 1.6 GHZ, 0.99GB RAM
and some audio hardware wise info:
EDIROL UA-4FX (audio) and PCR-M50(midi)

Ok so..
STANDALONE:
1. When i select ASIO EDIROL UA-4FX as audio driver type and then load the first part and start playing, I can't hear any sound...altough when I switch the driver from ASIO to DirectSound devices Primary Sound Driver, I can hear the sound again! (Tested plenty times and its always like that: open UVI or clean all parts, select ASIO as driver, load a part->no sound!, change ASIO to DirectSound->works again and you can even select the ASIO driver afterwards and then it plays as well, so it's only when there's no part loaded!)

2. After I change the driver from ASIO to DirectSound and back to ASIO I can play, but only for a while (random one, sometimes a minute sometimes a couple of seconds and then it starts to chop up and crackle noise audio and eventually drop the audio totally off. It's the same with DirectSound drivers for EDIROL UA-4FX only the Primary Sound Driver works ok.

3. While playing and at the same time tweaking the following FX parameters audio starts to crackle (fry, chop up):
Modulation-Chorus,Flanger and Phaser(probably others as well but didn't check)-The Delay Time and Depth parameters, rest is fine and cool!!
WeohweohweohOhmweoh

4. Crashes while loading new parts on previous parts or just parts on empty slots.

AS VSTi IN ABLETON 6.0.1:
AS ABOVE + Crashes Ableton randomly while playing(will investigate it more when I'll find some time)

Crossed fingers for wiping them bugs... and I'll be back when I spot some more

au revoir

UVI Workstation (release)