Ringo Beats into Drumcore?
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- KVRian
- 598 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from An American in Japan (I moved)
Just took a listen to your Ringo Beats Download and am really impressed. I would like to use it with Drumcore. I assume the best format to use would be REX2.. Have you guys tried importing into Drumcore and did it go well?
Like the Bonzo beats too... good stuff
Like the Bonzo beats too... good stuff
peace,
david
david
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
He iD! Nice to see you. Well, you can import the Rex2 into DrumCore but it really isn't designed for multi-tracks. The best is to just load them right into your DAW though and then play the drum kits that associate with them. The drum kits will be released in multitrack form in Kontakt and BFD2, but also in stereo form in Battery and DrumCore/KitCore. Also, many of the loops are in stereo form either in RAW Style Paks or in esoundz' Loop Club section.
Although one thing you could do with the multitrack loops is load say the overheads in DrumCore and use that but ALSO have the full multitracks in case you want to do more flexible mixing in another situation. Pretty nice to have that kind of flexibility with both mic mixing and Rex. Plus it is very unique and rare to find, especially the way we did it which is different than anyone else's (and there aren't many multi-track rexes out there because it is extremely difficult and time consuming to do properly).
Although one thing you could do with the multitrack loops is load say the overheads in DrumCore and use that but ALSO have the full multitracks in case you want to do more flexible mixing in another situation. Pretty nice to have that kind of flexibility with both mic mixing and Rex. Plus it is very unique and rare to find, especially the way we did it which is different than anyone else's (and there aren't many multi-track rexes out there because it is extremely difficult and time consuming to do properly).
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 598 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from An American in Japan (I moved)
I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?
peace,
david
david
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
No they're sold separately. But you bring up an interesting thing there... it could be possible we'll do a crossgrade discount on a DrumCore version. We'll see. Maybe.iDavid wrote:I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?
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- KVRist
- 136 posts since 18 Mar, 2006
I hope that's something you'll consider when you get back from England.Squids wrote:No they're sold separately. But you bring up an interesting thing there... it could be possible we'll do a crossgrade discount on a DrumCore version. We'll see. Maybe.iDavid wrote:I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?
I wouldn't mind having both the multitrack/Kontakt version and the stereo Battery/KitCore version....
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
Yeah, I was thinking maybe we could do a stereo version of the loops with kits in a few formats like Battery and DrumCore. Originally we were just going to do the artist titles in those formats but maybe we'll do the style sessions too... hmmm... makes sense especially in DrumCore/KitCore. Okay, so on top of 8 drummer packs we'll have a bunch for styles too! More news coming (and yes a little more when I get back from England but of course there is a whole company still working whilst I am doing that anyway so no real lulls, just maybe less posting on KVR but maybe not even that!)KeithAdv wrote:I hope that's something you'll consider when you get back from England.Squids wrote:No they're sold separately. But you bring up an interesting thing there... it could be possible we'll do a crossgrade discount on a DrumCore version. We'll see. Maybe.iDavid wrote:I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?![]()
I wouldn't mind having both the multitrack/Kontakt version and the stereo Battery/KitCore version....
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 18 Feb, 2006 from Upstate New York
Hi Squids, Been a while since I messed around with REX at all. So,you just load those into Cubase/Acid/Audition/Reaper/etc and they "enter themselves" as separate tracks with corresponding mixer channels? I'm trying to remember.Squids wrote:Yeah, I was thinking maybe we could do a stereo version of the loops with kits in a few formats like Battery and DrumCore. Originally we were just going to do the artist titles in those formats but maybe we'll do the style sessions too... hmmm... makes sense especially in DrumCore/KitCore. Okay, so on top of 8 drummer packs we'll have a bunch for styles too! More news coming (and yes a little more when I get back from England but of course there is a whole company still working whilst I am doing that anyway so no real lulls, just maybe less posting on KVR but maybe not even that!)KeithAdv wrote:I hope that's something you'll consider when you get back from England.Squids wrote:No they're sold separately. But you bring up an interesting thing there... it could be possible we'll do a crossgrade discount on a DrumCore version. We'll see. Maybe.iDavid wrote:I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?![]()
I wouldn't mind having both the multitrack/Kontakt version and the stereo Battery/KitCore version....
I'm also about to download my sounds from the Drumcore GB, and am mulling whether to select REX or Acid, so I'd appreciate the help.
Thanks, and thanks again and as always for these fantastic GB's. Have a good time in Merry Old!
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 18 Feb, 2006 from Upstate New York
Okay, sorry for the case of the 'lazies.' I've been up almost 24 hours and it HAS been a long time since Recycle days for me. When I've used loops it has usually been in ACID just using [acidized] wave files.4fmb wrote:Hi Squids, Been a while since I messed around with REX at all. So,you just load those into Cubase/Acid/Audition/Reaper/etc and they "enter themselves" as separate tracks with corresponding mixer channels? I'm trying to remember.Squids wrote:Yeah, I was thinking maybe we could do a stereo version of the loops with kits in a few formats like Battery and DrumCore. Originally we were just going to do the artist titles in those formats but maybe we'll do the style sessions too... hmmm... makes sense especially in DrumCore/KitCore. Okay, so on top of 8 drummer packs we'll have a bunch for styles too! More news coming (and yes a little more when I get back from England but of course there is a whole company still working whilst I am doing that anyway so no real lulls, just maybe less posting on KVR but maybe not even that!)KeithAdv wrote:I hope that's something you'll consider when you get back from England.Squids wrote:No they're sold separately. But you bring up an interesting thing there... it could be possible we'll do a crossgrade discount on a DrumCore version. We'll see. Maybe.iDavid wrote:I didn't realize they were multi-track... pretty cool stuff
If you buy them now, do you get the stereo drumcore version later?![]()
I wouldn't mind having both the multitrack/Kontakt version and the stereo Battery/KitCore version....
I'm also about to download my sounds from the Drumcore GB, and am mulling whether to select REX or Acid, so I'd appreciate the help.
Thanks, and thanks again and as always for these fantastic GB's. Have a good time in Merry Old!
I'm remembering now that REX files will import into any VST host just fine. But -if anyone could tell me: are there any particular advantages/drawbacks one way or the other as far as choosing between REX and WAVE files? Thanks!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 598 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from An American in Japan (I moved)
When you say multi-track, how many tracks are we talking about. Is it the like original Drum's from hell concept?
peace,
david
david
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 3 Jul, 2005 from The Realm of Possibilities
Depends on the set...some I've seen so far import as many as 11 tracks.iDavid wrote:When you say multi-track, how many tracks are we talking about. Is it the like original Drum's from hell concept?
Kick, Subkick, Snare Top, Snare bottom, Hi-Hats, Tom 1, Tom 2, Tom 3, Tom 4, OH and Room.
Some of the "Bonham" type stuff has 3 toms and an extra "Backroom" mic ...
You pick and choose which ones to load....
BTW, the ones from the GB can be downloaded in ALL 3 formats, REX, Apple and WAV....
Play what you feel and feel what you play.
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
We didn't go by anyone else's concept. But it is like real multitrack drum sessions. When you record drums you usually have direct mics, overheads, room mics etc to mix with. So this keeps that intact for the same flexibility as a live drum session but with the programming of slices in Rex, Apple Loops and Acidized Wave (and in sync with each other which no one else has been able to do between all three formats like this) so that you can speed up and slow down the tempo, quantize it and other useful musical things.iDavid wrote:When you say multi-track, how many tracks are we talking about. Is it the like original Drum's from hell concept?
By the way guys we have a PDF guide that we're going to upload that gives you tips on how to use the multitrack loops in various DAWS. Plus I believe we have some template files as well. We'll put these in the esoundz user area soon. It should help answer some questions.
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- KVRist
- 136 posts since 18 Mar, 2006
Brilliant! One of the questions I've had is how "raw" are these tracks? Was there any EQ'ing or processing done at all that we should know about beforehand, beyond loop and transient slicing?Squids wrote:By the way guys we have a PDF guide that we're going to upload that gives you tips on how to use the multitrack loops in various DAWS. Plus I believe we have some template files as well. We'll put these in the esoundz user area soon. It should help answer some questions.
- Sonic Reality Head Chef
- 8566 posts since 11 Mar, 2002 from Florida
No. The raw unprocessed tracks. Sometimes we MAY add in some EXTRA stuff like a compressed room but even then... most of the time no. This way YOU can eq, compress or do whatever you want and have the least amount of things already done to it. Just great mics, mic pres and great A to D. By the way, it's almost a given at this point but we use ALL discrete class A or tube mic pres, great mics (Neumann, AKG etc.) and Apogee converters most of the time (or better), Big Ben clocks and all that good stuff. We don't play around. Often times we'll even use some of the same gear that was used on the original sessions of classic rock and soul records. All depends. But this stuff is meant for you to have maximum flexibility to produce! It's like having your own dream drum sessions ready to go at any time to play whatever you want. That's what I always wanted so... there you have it! Now you can have it too.KeithAdv wrote:Brilliant! One of the questions I've had is how "raw" are these tracks? Was there any EQ'ing or processing done at all that we should know about beforehand, beyond loop and transient slicing?Squids wrote:By the way guys we have a PDF guide that we're going to upload that gives you tips on how to use the multitrack loops in various DAWS. Plus I believe we have some template files as well. We'll put these in the esoundz user area soon. It should help answer some questions.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 3 Jul, 2005 from The Realm of Possibilities
yup...those backroom mics on the British Rock loops are cool...and I know the overheads or rooms (can't remember) are cool on the motown stuff.Squids wrote:Often times we'll even use some of the same gear that was used on the original sessions of classic rock and soul records.
All in all, fabulous sets!
Play what you feel and feel what you play.
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- KVRist
- 136 posts since 18 Mar, 2006
Wonderful! Me, too! Thank you!Squids wrote:It's like having your own dream drum sessions ready to go at any time to play whatever you want. That's what I always wanted so... there you have it! Now you can have it too.
