I'd like to say from experience that AQ treats his customers most excellently, answers quickly and is extremely helpful and supportive.
That said, well, I don't know what gets him upset sometimes. But seriously, how much do you identify yourselves with a website, guys? I guess it's up to you, but as far as I'm concerned, I'm not KVR, I don't care what he thinks about this place. I DO like it here sometimes. But his opinion would never keep me from at least trying - TRYING - an excellent synth. Some of you take it so personally what he thinks about KVR, why, people? Please relax (incl. AQ).
Announcing Poly-Ana 1.13. Receptor compatible!
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- KVRist
- 405 posts since 15 May, 2006
I know what you mean, Watto. Still, it's technically still a website, the community is only our heads, and you can't see that from looking at the site. It's different things to different people, to me it's just a website. We can't expect everyone to have the same conception of this place. To some, it might be nothing more than, i don't know, imdb.com or whatever.
If you sit in a café with a couple of friends, and someone tells you he doesn't like the café, you get all upset then?
If you sit in a café with a couple of friends, and someone tells you he doesn't like the café, you get all upset then?
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- KVRAF
- 2028 posts since 18 Mar, 2004 from New York, N.Y.
The perspective you use to defend him can also be used against him. Let's face it, if you see a bit of text missing from an obscure page on a website, do you accuse them of supporting crime and then call everyone who disagrees with you names? Especially of a website that has allowed you to promote your product and communicate with your users, where everyone who reads it is a potential customer?ViktorW wrote:...
If you sit in a café with a couple of friends, and someone tells you he doesn't like the café, you get all upset then?
This is far beyond defending someone's right to their opinion. This was a total loss of all decorum and professionalism, and outright childish, unstable behavior...
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- KVRAF
- 7217 posts since 21 Aug, 2004 from Trondheim, Norway
I've met many of these people, and at least some of them are very real, they have real jobs, make real music, and spend real money.ViktorW wrote: Still, it's technically still a website, the community is only our heads
Me, I'm going to continue to spend mine elsewhere. Technically, that doesn't make me a criminal. That's all in AQ's head.
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
That thread was f**ked. And seriously disappointing.
As for whether this is a community or not: I've made real friends here, talked to them on phones, over email, got jobs, received help, sold and bought products...sounds like a community to me (and an addiction, but that's another matter!
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As for whether this is a community or not: I've made real friends here, talked to them on phones, over email, got jobs, received help, sold and bought products...sounds like a community to me (and an addiction, but that's another matter!
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
AQ is not a bad guy but he is as nutty as a fruit cake and he's got extremely bad form. Nobody can help him 'cause he always knows best. That wouldn't be so bad if was true maybe 50% of the time but he's working on a 20% margin.ViktorW wrote:I'd like to say from experience that AQ treats his customers most excellently, answers quickly and is extremely helpful and supportive.
He built the synth he's always wanted but it's got a weird gui that only a hand full of people want to deal with. Just because it got cracked he thinks that somehow changes "only a hand full of people want it" to "everybody's stealing my synth".
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My Site, Music and Free EFM Plugins
My Site, Music and Free EFM Plugins
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
And we have the right to deny things that we consider to fall into the category of slander. His accusations of KVR (or Muse) actively promoting piracy are unfounded.Watto wrote:This isn't just a website - it's a community, and therefore well worth defending.
He should consider that it is inevitable that people hang around here in order to learn of software, demo it, and then look for cracked versions, but that can no more be blamed on KVR than the existence of roads can be blamed for drunk driving. KVR has been a valuable resource for him to promote his product, updates, and to get feedback from legitimate paying customers and demo testers. KVR itself (and certainly Muse) has done nothing at all to actively harm his business (or that of any other developer).
"You don’t expect much beyond a gaping, misspelled void when you stare into the cold dark place that is Internet comments."
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
Yes, but I didn't feel personally attacked in that thread, just in disbelief of the irrationality of it. He, or any software developer, or any media company who feels their copyrights are being violated, can rail endlessly about any website that receives heavy traffic and blame them for the infringements. KVR is only a place to learn of, promote, and discuss music related software. This isn't Napster (in it's former days, that is). KVR doesn't promote cracks, period.bduffy wrote:That thread was f**ked. And seriously disappointing.
As for whether this is a community or not: I've made real friends here, talked to them on phones, over email, got jobs, received help, sold and bought products...sounds like a community to me (and an addiction, but that's another matter!
"You don’t expect much beyond a gaping, misspelled void when you stare into the cold dark place that is Internet comments."
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
One more thing I'd like to add is that I can understand Mike from AQ's frustration, and I am not claiming that the source of the frustration is unreal. He has put a lot of work into his synth and he has put integrity into the quality of the sound and the variety of features, which is extensive for a VA, so discovering that a crack exists is, I'm sure infuriating (though far from unique).
But he has let frustration spill over into reckless abandon and pointed fingers at the wrong entities, which is something that needs to be rectified or people will be wary of doing business with him as they will have doubts about being able to trust his judgment.
But he has let frustration spill over into reckless abandon and pointed fingers at the wrong entities, which is something that needs to be rectified or people will be wary of doing business with him as they will have doubts about being able to trust his judgment.
"You don’t expect much beyond a gaping, misspelled void when you stare into the cold dark place that is Internet comments."
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
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- KVRAF
- 5524 posts since 5 May, 2007 from Mars Colony
BTW, I saw someone suggest Synchrosoft and, though I may be unpopular on this, I'd rather see that get implemented for Poly-Ana than for more of these kinds of conflicts to arise. I already tolerate that particular dongle for two synthesizers so one more wouldn't be hard to accept. I'd hate to see Mike resort to iLok, though.
"You don’t expect much beyond a gaping, misspelled void when you stare into the cold dark place that is Internet comments."
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
---Salon on internet trolls attacking Cleveland kidnapping victim Amanda Berry
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
Agreed. I cannot - in any way, shape or form - understand how or why AQ feels the way he does. It's like a psychotic break with reality or something.A.M. Gold wrote:Yes, but I didn't feel personally attacked in that thread, just in disbelief of the irrationality of it. He, or any software developer, or any media company who feels their copyrights are being violated, can rail endlessly about any website that receives heavy traffic and blame them for the infringements. KVR is only a place to learn of, promote, and discuss music related software. This isn't Napster (in it's former days, that is). KVR doesn't promote cracks, period.bduffy wrote:That thread was f**ked. And seriously disappointing.
As for whether this is a community or not: I've made real friends here, talked to them on phones, over email, got jobs, received help, sold and bought products...sounds like a community to me (and an addiction, but that's another matter!
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- KVRist
- 79 posts since 12 Sep, 2004
AQ is one of the Nicest and most helpful people I have dealt with when it comes to software .
Any time I have a problem or a question , or a concern . I send an email and it is answered within 30 minutes .
Are you kidding ? Even the big boys Like NI don't do that .
I just had an issue with my serial and within literally 5 minutes , It had been resolved .
AQ is a stellar programmer as well . His plugs sound incredible . You can't argue with that .
Thanks AQ keep the good stuff coming .
Any time I have a problem or a question , or a concern . I send an email and it is answered within 30 minutes .
Are you kidding ? Even the big boys Like NI don't do that .
I just had an issue with my serial and within literally 5 minutes , It had been resolved .
AQ is a stellar programmer as well . His plugs sound incredible . You can't argue with that .
Thanks AQ keep the good stuff coming .
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- KVRAF
- 19156 posts since 13 Feb, 2003 from Vancouver, Canada
I've dealt with AQ personally too, totally great guy. But he's like Jeckyl and Hyde on the forum sometimes. That thread was anything but nice and helpful.
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- KVRAF
- 3971 posts since 19 Apr, 2005 from Brissie
How do you feel about the logic bomb he claims is in Poly-Ana?architexture wrote:AQ is one of the Nicest and most helpful people I have dealt with when it comes to software .
I've joined Lurkers Anonymous.