Orange Tree Samples releases CoreBass: Cherry

[Architeuthis]

Question: any plans on releasing a plectrum version?

??? what is a "plectrum" version?

[Gregjazz]

Question: any plans on releasing a plectrum version?

??? what is a "plectrum" version?

It means played with a pick (also called a "plectrum").

[bduffy]

Thanks!! You made my day.

I think I do need to make a plectrum version. With the 4x round robin, that'll make the upstroke/downstroke picking especially realistic. I'll also put in some scripting to track pick direction, since a lot of bassists use conservation picking rather than pure up/down cycling.

Dude. That would destroy!!! As an alternative rock-type guy, I need a good pick-bass, and they're hard to come by; almost impossible, in fact. With Kontakt scripting, it could really come to life! You got a customer when it's ready.

[Gregjazz]

Dude. That would destroy!!! As an alternative rock-type guy, I need a good pick-bass, and they're hard to come by; almost impossible, in fact. With Kontakt scripting, it could really come to life! You got a customer when it's ready.

I'm really excited about doing a pick version, since with 4x round robin, it would do really well with rock, or especially metal, where you're playing 8th notes on the same note. So having 4 downstrokes and 4 upstrokes to cycle between, that's 8 notes before the samples repeat--a full measure of 8th notes in 4/4! (I know you can do the math, I'm just getting excited )

[luxth]

aahh, another Greg's bass...thats the kind of news i like.

[morelia]

Don't get me wrong, I like UBK for what it is, but I never got it to sound great in a mix, and I couldn't really get the attack to sound how I wanted it to. And the sound is not exactly what I was after. I keep it on my HDD for lightweight work when I don't want to load up something bigger. Like my Scarbee bass which sound fantastic. But this Cherry Bass is spot on IMO. It sounds great, very playable, and it is for my system a great size. Another 2bg bass would not be any use to me. I can see this getting all the bass work around here. Love it, and thanks for making it affordable.

[forw]

[bduffy]

Dude. That would destroy!!! As an alternative rock-type guy, I need a good pick-bass, and they're hard to come by; almost impossible, in fact. With Kontakt scripting, it could really come to life! You got a customer when it's ready.

I'm really excited about doing a pick version, since with 4x round robin, it would do really well with rock, or especially metal, where you're playing 8th notes on the same note. So having 4 downstrokes and 4 upstrokes to cycle between, that's 8 notes before the samples repeat--a full measure of 8th notes in 4/4! (I know you can do the math, I'm just getting excited )

I can't actually: math flunkee here.

So speaking of round robin picking, there's something that I wonder about: if you're doing irregular 16-th note picking (in the same vein as strumming) where you tend to alternate your ups and downs in uneven patterns; is there a way to get the script to intelligently "know" where the downstrokes and upstrokes would be? That's the biggest problem I have with bass libs (that I usually have to cover up with mixing); even with round robin, you're not necessarily getting up/down behaviour like you would in real life.

Does that make sense?

[bduffy]

Don't get me wrong, I like UBK for what it is, but I never got it to sound great in a mix, and I couldn't really get the attack to sound how I wanted it to. And the sound is not exactly what I was after. I keep it on my HDD for lightweight work when I don't want to load up something bigger. Like my Scarbee bass which sound fantastic. But this Cherry Bass is spot on IMO. It sounds great, very playable, and it is for my system a great size. Another 2bg bass would not be any use to me. I can see this getting all the bass work around here. Love it, and thanks for making it affordable.

You know, that's funny: that's exactly how I felt, until I unearthed this demo from a few years ago with this killer slap bass in it:

ME_LOVE_TRIP_2008_v5.mp3

I thought it must've been Trilogy or one of my higher-end bass libraries (my brother heard it, and he was like, "is that a fake bass?!?", but I was amazed to discover it was UBK! So I kept it and resolved to use it more, although Cherry is a whole other level (or two).

[egbert]

Oh man, this bass if off the charts. I just flew it into an old project from my last album that required fingered bass, and man: it just mixes itself! I'm not sure if I would even apply compression to this, it's just even; no plosive frequencies, awesome bottom end...sounds like a tracked bass. Amazing.

trVth_2008-CherryBassTest.mp3

Really nice bass part there bduffy. The bass sits beautifully in that mix - you can hear it in every register as clear as a bell.

Looks like yet another great bass from Greg. If you are doing more articulations they would be welcome here too.

[bduffy]

Oh man, this bass if off the charts. I just flew it into an old project from my last album that required fingered bass, and man: it just mixes itself! I'm not sure if I would even apply compression to this, it's just even; no plosive frequencies, awesome bottom end...sounds like a tracked bass. Amazing.

trVth_2008-CherryBassTest.mp3

Really nice bass part there bduffy. The bass sits beautifully in that mix - you can hear it in every register as clear as a bell.

Looks like yet another great bass from Greg. If you are doing more articulations they would be welcome here too.

Thanks, egbert! Did I mention that's no compression, EQ - nothing?

[Gregjazz]

So speaking of round robin picking, there's something that I wonder about: if you're doing irregular 16-th note picking (in the same vein as strumming) where you tend to alternate your ups and downs in uneven patterns; is there a way to get the script to intelligently "know" where the downstrokes and upstrokes would be? That's the biggest problem I have with bass libs (that I usually have to cover up with mixing); even with round robin, you're not necessarily getting up/down behaviour like you would in real life.

Does that make sense?

Yes, it makes sense, and that's one of the factors I would definitely need to take into account when scripting the upstroke/downstroke cycling.

[egbert]

Oh man, this bass if off the charts. I just flew it into an old project from my last album that required fingered bass, and man: it just mixes itself! I'm not sure if I would even apply compression to this, it's just even; no plosive frequencies, awesome bottom end...sounds like a tracked bass. Amazing.

trVth_2008-CherryBassTest.mp3

Really nice bass part there bduffy. The bass sits beautifully in that mix - you can hear it in every register as clear as a bell.

Looks like yet another great bass from Greg. If you are doing more articulations they would be welcome here too.

Thanks, egbert! Did I mention that's no compression, EQ - nothing?

Yep

[bduffy]

So speaking of round robin picking, there's something that I wonder about: if you're doing irregular 16-th note picking (in the same vein as strumming) where you tend to alternate your ups and downs in uneven patterns; is there a way to get the script to intelligently "know" where the downstrokes and upstrokes would be? That's the biggest problem I have with bass libs (that I usually have to cover up with mixing); even with round robin, you're not necessarily getting up/down behaviour like you would in real life.

Does that make sense?

Yes, it makes sense, and that's one of the factors I would definitely need to take into account when scripting the upstroke/downstroke cycling.

Nice. I don't know how the hell you'd do that, though...

[pekadan]

Congrats on the release Greg! *Very* exciting!! Can you say something about the bass guitar that was sampled for CoreBass: Cherry?

So that's a secret then, huh?

Btw, here's a fat +1 for a picked bass!