Well they have to be rectangular but I'll give it a go in the next few days.insertpizhere wrote:me neither, but the guy who requested it hasn't complained (?)DarkStar wrote:OK,
I get it now (never used NRPN myself!)
by the way, would it be difficult to arrange the buttons into a piano keyboard shape on midiForceToKey?
piz midi plugins (windows/linux/mac)
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
rectangular is cool. thanks.
here's an updated zip with the fixed midiVelocityScaler:
http://thepiz.org/xt/pizmidi20080610.zip
here's an updated zip with the fixed midiVelocityScaler:
http://thepiz.org/xt/pizmidi20080610.zip
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 18 Jun, 2008
These plug-ins could be the answer to my prayers: I'm controlling multiple instruments from my Midi controller keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 61) in Ableton LIVE 6.0.7. I'd like to be able to use the sliders to control one of the instruments (Live's auto filter) but don't want these sliders to affect other instruments (like Spectrasonic's Atmosphere). Because atmosphere is hard wired to be controlled by certain midi cc, I need something to "block" the MIDI cc signals to atmosphere while sending those signals to the auto filter.
The only problem is that I've tried to insert the plug in, but I can't get it to work. Where and how should I insert the PIZ plug ins? Which should I use?
Thanks for the help!
The only problem is that I've tried to insert the plug in, but I can't get it to work. Where and how should I insert the PIZ plug ins? Which should I use?
Thanks for the help!
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- KVRer
- 2 posts since 18 Jun, 2008
These plug-ins could be the answer to my prayers: I'm controlling multiple instruments from my Midi controller keyboard (M-Audio Axiom 61) in Ableton LIVE 6.0.7. I'd like to be able to use the sliders to control one of the instruments (Live's auto filter) but don't want these sliders to affect other instruments (like Spectrasonic's Atmosphere). Because atmosphere is hard wired to be controlled by certain midi cc, I need something to "block" the MIDI cc signals to atmosphere while sending those signals to the auto filter.
The only problem is that I've tried to insert the plug in, but I can't get it to work. Where and how should I insert the PIZ plug ins? Which should I use?
Thanks for the help!
The only problem is that I've tried to insert the plug in, but I can't get it to work. Where and how should I insert the PIZ plug ins? Which should I use?
Thanks for the help!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
to use midi VSTs in Live, you have to insert them as instruments, and then choose them as the midi inputs on other tracks. hopefully that makes sense...
anyway, for this purpose, i would use midiNotchFilter. it has a preset to pass only notes, which might do what you want. you could also add to this to make it pass notes, pitch bend, and mod wheel, or whatever...
so insert midiNotchFilter as an instrument on a midi track, then change the midi input of Atmosphere track to be from midiNotchFilter.
anyway, for this purpose, i would use midiNotchFilter. it has a preset to pass only notes, which might do what you want. you could also add to this to make it pass notes, pitch bend, and mod wheel, or whatever...
so insert midiNotchFilter as an instrument on a midi track, then change the midi input of Atmosphere track to be from midiNotchFilter.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 8 Feb, 2005
any news on " - Midi quantize/swing/shuffle " ?
my ideia of a very simple swing woud be..asuming a bar has 16 steps, something that would just delay steps 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16. very simple yet does wonders to any rhythm
the ideia is simple... but guess that making a plug out of it isnt as easy.
thanks for your plugs again...ive already deleted all my other midi plugs now....you are killing the competition.
my ideia of a very simple swing woud be..asuming a bar has 16 steps, something that would just delay steps 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16. very simple yet does wonders to any rhythm
the ideia is simple... but guess that making a plug out of it isnt as easy.
thanks for your plugs again...ive already deleted all my other midi plugs now....you are killing the competition.
Vintage Drum Machine Kits for the Roland TR8-S & MC-707 https://rhythmelectronics.bandcamp.com
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
it shouln't be too hard to make a "swing" plugin like that. one difficulty will be figuring out what to do with note-off messages. i'll give it a shot.
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
- KVRAF
- 10130 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
have you tried Tobybears Humanisator ?hcv242 wrote:any news on " - Midi quantize/swing/shuffle " ?
my ideia of a very simple swing woud be..asuming a bar has 16 steps, something that would just delay steps 2, 4, 6, 8, 10, 12, 14, and 16. very simple yet does wonders to any rhythm
the ideia is simple... but guess that making a plug out of it isnt as easy.
thanks for your plugs again...ive already deleted all my other midi plugs now....you are killing the competition.
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 8 Feb, 2005
thanks for the tip... but random humanization has always sounded to me like some drunk guy playing an instrument.
Vintage Drum Machine Kits for the Roland TR8-S & MC-707 https://rhythmelectronics.bandcamp.com
- KVRian
- 1297 posts since 23 Jun, 2007 from Findlay OH USA
Just a quick note to say thanks to piz for these great plugins, I use them frequently in Linux with the very cool JOST host environment. Lately I've been using the audio2midi plug to convert an audio stream into controller values that are then sent to AVSynthesis, where they control video and audio transformations (OpenGL and Csound). Csound can play the same audio stream that's being converted to CCs, so the integration is nice & tight. Wacky stuff, possible thanks to the piz plugs. 
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2237 posts since 12 Nov, 2002 from swordfish
i have some kind of midi swing plugin started:
http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSwing.zip
it may need some tweaking... let me know of any weird effects or stuck notes.
features:
- 8th or 16th note "swing"
- it delays the noteoff by the same amount as the noteon, unless this would overlap a following note
- there is an experimental parameter ("Shape") which determines how much "swing" will apply to notes that are close to, but not exactly at, the target area. 0 means wide, 100 means narrow:

future possibilities:
- more note values
- beat-dependent effects could be applied to velocity as well
- a parameter for some randomness (drunkenness) in the delay time and/or velocity
- an option to affect other midi events, not just notes
http://thepiz.org/xt/midiSwing.zip
it may need some tweaking... let me know of any weird effects or stuck notes.
features:
- 8th or 16th note "swing"
- it delays the noteoff by the same amount as the noteon, unless this would overlap a following note
- there is an experimental parameter ("Shape") which determines how much "swing" will apply to notes that are close to, but not exactly at, the target area. 0 means wide, 100 means narrow:

future possibilities:
- more note values
- beat-dependent effects could be applied to velocity as well
- a parameter for some randomness (drunkenness) in the delay time and/or velocity
- an option to affect other midi events, not just notes
wrongtastic, baby
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
tucson's number one gothic rock band since 1995
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- KVRian
- 943 posts since 8 Feb, 2005
youre amazing
...it works...ive tried it in psycle + energyxt vsti ....it crashed twice....once when ive set the shape to 0...another one when i was saving the project (guess this one could be a coincidence)... and sometimes the audio goes mute...like if it blocked all the notes...after a while the notes start to play again. the two times it crashed notes were being played... i couldnt reproduce any of the crashes...lousy bug report i know... sorry....will test more tomorrow...the only thing i can reproduce is when everything goes silent....just fill all the 16 steps of a bar (any settings in midiswing) and let it play for a while....it takes less than one minute here.
thanks a lot.
thanks a lot.
Vintage Drum Machine Kits for the Roland TR8-S & MC-707 https://rhythmelectronics.bandcamp.com


