Yes, it's planned for Week 8.Optomadic wrote:Kim is there any chance you'l be talking about reverb at all (especially on vocals)? I dont see it in any of the schedules..
Thanks
-Kim.
KVR Mix Workshop - Week 1: Vocals
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- KVRAF
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- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRAF
- 7787 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
I guess these threads need to be linked...
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3206916
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3206916
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- KVRAF
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- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRAF
- 7787 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
I was implying that vocal work is needed.
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 7 Apr, 2007 from Holon, Israel
Kim, I'm trying to fine tune the vocal.
I wonder if it's OK that I will link to my version (but not through your server!)
in another forum, so they will try to help me with the vocal or the whole mix.
I wonder if it's OK that I will link to my version (but not through your server!)
in another forum, so they will try to help me with the vocal or the whole mix.
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- KVRAF
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- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
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- KVRian
- 669 posts since 6 Jul, 2007 from In the space between the heavens and the corner of some foreign field...
@ mods - Any chance of stickying these? Sub forum? Anything to keep it to the top?
Please understand that this is coming from someone who quotes Terry Pratchett - Melkor
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- KVRAF
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- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
At the moment each week links to the previous week and the next week (a doubly-linked list!). I'm also keeping a list offline of all these threads. When it's finished, I'll publish the links on my website, possibly in their own section. Or I might start a thread with links to all the weeks (with summaries etc), and just link to that thread on my website.hackenslash wrote:@ mods - Any chance of stickying these? Sub forum? Anything to keep it to the top?
Don't sticky these individual threads - there are nine weeks planned, we don't need each of the nine weeks to be permanently sitting at the top of this forum.
-Kim.
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- KVRian
- 522 posts since 19 Jul, 2007 from Netherlands
I will post on this thread since the question I've got concern the vocal track.
So I think I've got a pretty decent Tone set for the vocals, at least good enough to get down to the other stuff. So I added a Compressor and tried the settings Kim described. But When I set the theshold to a very low value (I needed to just capture the low volume sylables) it seemed as if it changed the Tone. So I used a little higher setting. When I bypass the compressor, I still think there is some Tone change but its acceptable.
Also when I used the D-esser at any setting, it seemed to enhance the latend echo/reverb that is already on the track (probably from the booth?). So I'm really reluctant to use the D-esser.
Anyway, the question is: Are these side effects "normal" for VST plugins or are they just of poor quality -or- am I hearing things that just aren't there
I use the standard Cubase 2.0 plugins.
PS: I didn't noticed the echo/reverb on the vocal track before. Its amazing what you can hear if you really listen (that the track has been cut up in a lot of places for instance
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I now listened for the first time to the produced track. Its very good (hee its got reverb ) but I seem to be hearing a sort of scraping noise every time she breathes. Do you hear that too? As if the freqs of her breath are really enhanced and deepened. Hard to give a good description.
PS: And I can hear some cross-talk on the vocal track too! Turn down those head-phones!
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So I think I've got a pretty decent Tone set for the vocals, at least good enough to get down to the other stuff. So I added a Compressor and tried the settings Kim described. But When I set the theshold to a very low value (I needed to just capture the low volume sylables) it seemed as if it changed the Tone. So I used a little higher setting. When I bypass the compressor, I still think there is some Tone change but its acceptable.
Also when I used the D-esser at any setting, it seemed to enhance the latend echo/reverb that is already on the track (probably from the booth?). So I'm really reluctant to use the D-esser.
Anyway, the question is: Are these side effects "normal" for VST plugins or are they just of poor quality -or- am I hearing things that just aren't there
I use the standard Cubase 2.0 plugins.
PS: I didn't noticed the echo/reverb on the vocal track before. Its amazing what you can hear if you really listen (that the track has been cut up in a lot of places for instance
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I now listened for the first time to the produced track. Its very good (hee its got reverb
) but I seem to be hearing a sort of scraping noise every time she breathes. Do you hear that too? As if the freqs of her breath are really enhanced and deepened. Hard to give a good description.PS: And I can hear some cross-talk on the vocal track too! Turn down those head-phones!
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- KVRAF
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- 4692 posts since 28 Jan, 2003 from In these very interwebs
It sounds like you're learning to listen closer to the details in the sound and the subtle side-effects of processing. Providing of course that you're not doing anything weird, it is possible for compressors and de-essors to subtly change the tone of a sound. Depending on the sound, even a clean digital compressor (ie, just an automatic volume control) can change our perception of the sound - particularly if the louder parts that are being compressed are strong in a particular frequency range.obiwanjacobi wrote:Anyway, the question is: Are these side effects "normal" for VST plugins or are they just of poor quality -or- am I hearing things that just aren't there
Haha! Nothing wrong with a bit of bleed!obiwanjacobi wrote:PS: I didn't noticed the echo/reverb on the vocal track before. Its amazing what you can hear if you really listen (that the track has been cut up in a lot of places for instance
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I now listened for the first time to the produced track. Its very good (hee its got reverb
PS: And I can hear some cross-talk on the vocal track too! Turn down those head-phones!
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-Kim.