Omnisphere - will it be worth the hype ?

[MacScott]

While I think its good to have some of the old Spectrasonics libraries included in Omnisphere, many years have passed and I think some of those samples show their age,

Exactly! Those titles have been used to death in many cases. That's why breathing new life into them, with the STEAM engine, could make them fresh again.

I was half joking, but reprocessing some of those old samples could be pretty cool.

I trust Eric to do the right thing, he always does.

[spectrum]

Also, all of the Vocal Planet multisamples are included too.

you're kidding... I wanted the blues set from vocal planet. I actually wrote customer service and asked if I could buy the blues content alone.

She was friendly, but said no... She did report that *some* of vocal planet would end up in omnisphere.

Now you are saying "all" ??? are the multisamples a subset?

Only the multisamples from VP are included, not all the phrase-oriented material. The blues stuff from VP is all phrases, so that stuff is not in Omnisphere.

The reason for picking only the multisamples is because Omnisphere's current voice architecture works best with multisamples, not phrase or loop type samples.

[spectrum]

One question I don't believe I've seen asked on these forums, which is surprising:

will Omnisphere run on Receptor?

Not tested yet, but I'm sure they'll put a priority on getting that happening after the launch. The MUSE team are big Spectrasonics users themselves.

[spectrum]

It's very enticing to hear about the analog synths represented in the core content, too. While VA emulations are getting better all the time, I still find multisamples of real analog synths to be more sonically pleasing when going for more traditional analog sounds. It will be great to have a selection of that kind of material to work with in Omni's voice architecture (and, in typical Spectrasonics fashion, those instruments have undoubtedly been sampled very well).

Yep.

These are definitely the best ones we've ever done too. Chromatic, hi-res samples of everything.

It's really cool to mix and match the internal synth oscillators with great samples of Prophets, and Jupiters and OBs, etc.

The best of all worlds is the general idea.

[spectrum]

Yes. There will be an upgrade available for all Atmosphere customers directly from Spectrasonics.

Will this upgrade be available through dealers too? I live in Europe (Sweden to be more precise) so it would be a lot simpler for me to order it from a dealer within the EU and not have to deal with customs and all that jazz.

Nope.

It's just too complicated to do it through our dealer network. It would also be a much more expensive upgrade if we did it that way.

Do you seriously mean that all or most of the entire range of Spectrasonics libraries (I count 18 of them. 18!!!) are included in this? Sounds crazy, no, certifiably insane...
Not that I'm complaining, just can't wrap my mind around the idea...

As was stated earlier, it's the best of all the multisample and FX type material from the sample libraries, not phrases or loops (which eliminates a number of libraries)

Is there anything more you could tell us about the filters of this beast? I've seen some videos that demonstrates the "zoom-in"-window and from that I understand that it's possible to do OSCar-style filter separation, right?
Would there happen to be switchable characters too? (characters as in ladder, SEM, Curtis etc., not as in LP/HP/BP).

Basically yes, that type of thing is possible.

You'll see more on the 15th.

[spectrum]

Backbeat, Burning Groove, Liquid groove, Retro funk and Metamorphosis has already been released as sage expanders for stylus RMX....And as a bonus : the groove controlled elements from Distorted reality 1+2, Vocal planet and Bizarre guitar.

Eric has said it would be hard to make a sage version of supreme beats, and I somehow don't see bass legends make it into Omnishpere.

Correct.

But SOV, VP, DR1, DR2, The rest of Bizarre guitar, Heart of asia/africa 1+2 and HZ guitars will all proably be included

Almost all correct.

Just none of the phrase material.

Also, we ran out of time to include the multisamples from Heart of Africa vol.1 and Heart of Asia (we wanted to work on that material a little more), so those will be made available for Omnisphere a little later.

One thing that's pretty cool though is that we went back to the master recordings and redid much of the material, so the sound quality is often substantially better than from the original libraries.

We also included a lot of material that was never released before from those libraries. For example, there's double the material from the Bizarre Guitar sessions than we released on the original sample library....it's wonderful stuff too.

We chose everything very carefully, only picking material that works great with the STEAM engine and the specific features of Omnisphere's synthesis.

There's A LOT of stuff we've never talked about before that's included in Omnisphere's core library. Much more than I've mentioned in this thread too.

You'll see.

[spectrum]

That's a lot of great vocal samples. I've been drooling over those 2 collections for a long time. Omnisphere is sounding better & better all the time. Would I be correct in assuming that the Groove Control content is in the bonus sectioin of the SAGE Xpanders? (I still need to pick up RMX, but Omnisphere is a higher priority right now.)

Correct.

[spectrum]

Hi Eric

I have both Trilogy and RMX would it be cost effective for me to purchase Atmosphere now to become a VIP or is it to late

Thanks

If you can find it.

We stopped shipping Atmosphere a few weeks ago.

[spectrum]

While I think its good to have some of the old Spectrasonics libraries included in Omnisphere, many years have passed and I think some of those samples show their age, so I sure hope that the big part of the sample content is new, more detailed and on top of all more focused in the target of this new synth: new and better sounds.

Of course.

That's why we haven't really made a big deal out of including the sample library material. We don't want people to get the wrong idea that it's some kind of "big bundle" type of thing, because it's definitely not.

In fact, the patches from the sample libraries aren't really included at this point....the best of the legacy sample library material is integrated into the core soundsource library as material to create new sounds.

Because it's actually amazing material to work with in Omnisphere and it brings a great color to the overall core library pallete to work with.

To put it in perspective:

Out of the 42gigabytes in the core library, only about 3 gigabytes are from the original sample libraries. The Atmosphere library is 3.7gigabytes.

So that's a solid 35gigabytes of brand new, never before released material. So that's certainly the focus of the core library. But the sample libraries and Atmosphere stuff is a great additional color to mix in.

Dont get me wrong, I have no doubt that some hand picked sample sets from those libraries would do a good service inside this new beast, I only mean that would be not much exciting to have so many "deja vu" in this synth.

Oh...you don't have to worry about that at all.

We are being very careful to not have that feeling.

[Sascha Franck]

Ok, first off: Eric, my apologies for partially bashing your stuff regarding the license transfer "issues" - which, after re-reading what you said (here and elsewhere) doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

Anyways, what I'm really interested in is how much CPU power we should expect Omnisphere to consume. I know, it's a question really tough to answer because it all depends on the structure of whatever patches. Yet, maybe there's something like an "average CPU consumption factor" or some sort of minimum system requirements to use Omnisphere in whatever average mix.
In other words, I'm using a Macbook 2.4 with 4 GB RAM - will that be sufficient to make "proper" use of Omnisphere in a mix? I should add that I don't have too high demands regarding synth tracks, so 1-2 instances with maybe one more complexed and another less complexed patch would be something I may end up using in whatever songs.

Cheers
Sascha

[spectrum]

Ok, first off: Eric, my apologies for partially bashing your stuff regarding the license transfer "issues" - which, after re-reading what you said (here and elsewhere) doesn't seem to be an issue at all.

No worries. You always keep me on my toes.

Anyways, what I'm really interested in is how much CPU power we should expect Omnisphere to consume. I know, it's a question really tough to answer because it all depends on the structure of whatever patches. Yet, maybe there's something like an "average CPU consumption factor" or some sort of minimum system requirements to use Omnisphere in whatever average mix.
In other words, I'm using a Macbook 2.4 with 4 GB RAM - will that be sufficient to make "proper" use of Omnisphere in a mix? I should add that I don't have too high demands regarding synth tracks, so 1-2 instances with maybe one more complexed and another less complexed patch would be something I may end up using in whatever songs.

Sure. I have the same rig myself (MBP 2.4/4gb RAM) and that's a good system for Omnisphere and how you are describing working with it.

[Sascha Franck]

No worries. You always keep me on my toes.

Hah - good to know.

Sure. I have the same rig myself (MBP 2.4/4gb RAM) and that's a good system for Omnisphere and how you are describing working with it.

Sounds good.

Guess I have to start saving then (and I don't even make use of what I have at my disposal already - guess that's the vitual instrument world...).

Thanks
Sascha

[basic channel]

Eric, will we be able to stream the videos from the support site or do we still have to download them ?

Or maybe download in alternative formats e.g wmv etc. ?

I'm having trouble viewing my old QT RMX videos on my new DAW (using VLC, as I stubbornly refuse to install Apple's bloatware) ...

BC

[Gogor]

I'm having trouble viewing my old QT RMX videos on my new DAW (using VLC, as I stubbornly refuse to install Apple's bloatware) ...

BC

Hi BC,

did you try this instead? http://www.codecguide.com/about_qt.htm

[Sascha Franck]

I'm having trouble viewing my old QT RMX videos on my new DAW (using VLC, as I stubbornly refuse to install Apple's bloatware) ...

You can install Quicktime Alternative. They will play back fine then.
Unfortunately, QT Alternative doesn't seem to work properly as a browser plugin.