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bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:35 am

mellotronaut wrote:
spectrum wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:Interesting. So does that mean that Omni features content from SOV? SOV's price tag put the brakes on me getting it but if it has been gently and lovingly (heh) tossed into Omni's library then...something seismic has taken place beyond the other already seismic activity related to Omni.

So Spectrum or Glen, is SOV in Omni now?
Yep.

Basically the entire Symphony of Voices library is integrated into the Omnisphere core library.

Also, all of the Vocal Planet multisamples are included too.

Granular synthesis on Tuvan Throat singers anyone?

spectrum
now i'm lost ...

grrrrrmel

Ok. Now. This. Is. SICK. News!

Will be buying this for sure now! Holy Cow's Shit! This sounds incredible!

Cheers!
bManic

sonkeysankey · Post by **sonkeysankey** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:40 am

Sascha Franck wrote:
sonkeysankey wrote: Ian, I think there is a much easier way than Sascha's way.
What's easier that way? What you described is 100% exactly what Bart PE is doing. The only exception being that you have to download and install Bart PE, slap the Drive Image plugin into it and create a bootable CD.
And it's free.

Hi Sascha, have a look at the thread I started in Computer Setup, 'How to partition and install Windows XP', we can talk about it there (I don't want to fill up this thread with this, I'm sorry I went off topic.)

RonDP · Post by **RonDP** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:52 am

Back to Spectrasonics. The best VSTI's I've ever purchased.

I have RMX, Trilogy, and Atmosphere. They are the best money I ever spent.

Can't wait for Omnisphere.

Touch_the_Universe · Post by **Touch_the_Universe** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:52 am

@ eric.. hey buddy. im really hoping that you are cking these threads sometimes soon.. im totally in for that job of yours if you are still hiring... i even got erez aizen and amit duvdev from infrected mushroom to sign as recomendations for me so that you will hire me.. so that i can learn from u... hahahah.. seems i got myself in a pickle.. or somthing like that.. damn.. anyways... ill be in colorado the 25 of this month with them.. then. from there.. who knows..... arggg.. this is exciting/scary sorta.....

please no one kill me for naivelty

Touch_the_Universe · Post by **Touch_the_Universe** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:57 am

oh yeah, -* i dont want any sh** from anyone.. about being over qualified.. hopefully not under.... etc... or that im a joker.. cuz im in this 100 percent exciting stufff...

i plan on getting a job at specgtrsonics and going to college at same time to learn all there is to learn in this world from the best minds out there... hmhmh... hopefully such a gift of flatter with such delicacy will be bestowed upon some greatful subjetcts.. errr...

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:01 pm

Touch_the_Universe, are you sure something hasn't gotten terribly wrong with your medication?
I mean, you keep filling up this thread about how you'll get a job at Spectrasonics... for reasons pretty much unclear, at least to me.

Touch_the_Universe · Post by **Touch_the_Universe** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:14 pm

thnks

* didnt i say i didnt want anyshit****.... im just waiting for the man eric... if he says there is a job available.. then im going to wire him an application with some mighty fine singautures recomendations. . so

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 12:18 pm

Moah shit....
After reading through this thread, it looks like there's no damn way around Omnisphere. I just MUST have it.

Cabinfever · Post by **Cabinfever** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:16 pm

Well I'm still peeved that Atmosphere users seem to be lovingly stroked and comforted with "special deal" assurances at every opportunity, but SOV users are being told "tough luck, no upgrade break for you". Just seems wrong to me.

BOTH purchases are now being integrated into Omnisphere. But only one set of users get an upgrade. Eric's "explanation" for the difference is exceedingly weak, that Omnisphere is the specific upgrade path for Atmosphere users. That's just semantics.

Obviously with all the sound manipulation tools available, Omnisphere is an upgrade for SOV users as well.

Touch_the_Universe · Post by **Touch_the_Universe** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:26 pm

seriosuly cabin fever* 8i feel for you.. if it was me... id def do it. cuz it makes toatal fuckin sense... but ERIC is the man.. so what he says goes.... maybe if u ask nicely????... but atmosphere is a vsti and sov isnt ... so thats the legal chirping on twigs this fine saturday morning.. heheh

Melodialworks · Post by **Melodialworks** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:35 pm

Cabinfever wrote:
BOTH purchases are now being integrated into Omnisphere. But only one set of users get an upgrade. Eric's "explanation" for the difference is exceedingly weak, that Omnisphere is the specific upgrade path for Atmosphere users. That's just semantics.

Obviously with all the sound manipulation tools available, Omnisphere is an upgrade for SOV users as well.

My understanding is that you can make Omnishpere sound exactly like Atmosphere (by downloading the Atmosphere programs). However, only some of SOV is included in Omnisphere, so you can't make SOV sound exactly the same in Omnisphere.

Of course using Atmosphere and SOV as source material to then be manipulated by STEAM is creating something new. It's called repackaging, and all the big boys have been doing it for years - especially in the hardware area (for example Roland). When they bring out a new synth, a new keyboard, a lot of the old stuff is typically included, enhanced in some way, etc., i.e. NOT all brand spanking new samples etc.

So Omnisphere would appear to be an upgrade of some products, and and downgrade of others (since not all components are included) with STEAM added to create a NEW product.

Lawrence

Reverend Rhythm · Post by **Reverend Rhythm** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 1:38 pm

Touch_the_Universe wrote:seriosuly cabin fever* 8i feel for you.. if it was me... id def do it. cuz it makes toatal fuckin sense... but ERIC is the man.. so what he says goes.... maybe if u ask nicely????... but atmosphere is a vsti and sov isnt ... so thats the legal chirping on twigs this fine saturday morning.. heheh

neverfall · Post by **neverfall** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:08 pm

Cabinfever wrote:Well I'm still peeved that Atmosphere users seem to be lovingly stroked and comforted with "special deal" assurances at every opportunity, but SOV users are being told "tough luck, no upgrade break for you". Just seems wrong to me.

BOTH purchases are now being integrated into Omnisphere. But only one set of users get an upgrade. Eric's "explanation" for the difference is exceedingly weak, that Omnisphere is the specific upgrade path for Atmosphere users. That's just semantics.

Obviously with all the sound manipulation tools available, Omnisphere is an upgrade for SOV users as well.

This doesn't make sense to me.

I remember a few years back thee was an upgrade from Ethno World 2 users to Ethno World 3, but...they were basically the same titles with more instruments being included in the VSTi upgrade.

What is it about Omnisphere that makes you think it's primarily a voice/choral based instrument? SOV was released 11 years ago...as a sample CD. It's not even COMPLETELY included in Omnisphere. Atmosphere's samples on the other hand are. For the record, nothing makes me believe Omnisphere is primarily a pad and etheral based synth...but judging from all the film/tv work we've heard from Atmosphere I'd argue that "OMNI" must be the all around paramount softsynth for scoring. We'll let the thousands of upcoming films, shows, online/gaming content, and commercial spots argue that point.

Your argument is like saying like saying users should have received a discount on Trilogy for having bought Bass Legends from...what...33 years ago? I forgot when it was released. I'm not trying to be harsh on ya. I just can't see why SOV owners, Vocal Planet Owners, or Hans Zimmer owners should get a discount. I think the samples were included as an ATTRACTIVE BONUS.

If this is the case, I want a discount for buying all 3 VSTIs and Vocal Planet...

Vectorman · Post by **Vectorman** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:20 pm

I bought around $2,000 worth of Spectrasonics sample libraries in the '90s myself...if buying any of their past sample libraries was grounds for a deep discount, I'd be getting my copy of Omni free, LOL. Personally, I don't mind paying the full price; it promises to be worth every penny. Retaining a team of sound designers, programmers, etc. scattered across the globe over a span of years to develop something like this must have cost a LOT. If nobody is paying the full price, it becomes harder to realize a tidy profit on the whole venture which can then be partially re-invested into developing cool add-on libraries and extended features in the future. I see the cost of the product as what promises to be a very worthwhile longterm investment.

Casar1973 · Post by **Casar1973** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:31 pm

I wouldn't see the logic in an upgrade thing based on former sample lib purchases. They're different animals even if they both share certain DNA. An introductory discounted price to loyal customers would be another thing.
But if I buy a new model of the same car I used to have, I'd still have to pay my way, and that is how it generally works. Let he who have no bills to pay cast the first stone!

Omnisphere - will it be worth the hype ?