Omnisphere - will it be worth the hype ?

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spectrum wrote: Groove Lock works from any MIDI Files.
Seriously, Eric, whomever thought out "Groove Lock" (probably I should rather say "invented" it) needs to be praised big time.
I have always been a sucker for temposynced "things" (be it delays, arpeggiators, multistage envelopes, LFOs and what not), but more than once I found myself running into a situation where things simply wouldn't match because I'd used some ever so slight swing percentages and what not. So I slways wished that someone would come up with a solution for that dilemma.
Then I watched your Omnisphere teasers and what can I say? Just "wow" - I mean, that's pretty much just exactly what I was always thinking of as being the perfect solution.

Really, for me, this alone makes Omnisphere a lot more than just "worth considering".

So, give the guy who brought this one up a big pat on the back from me. And in case it was you, feel yourself praised quite a bit from over here.
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spectrum wrote:
standalone wrote:Just one question : GrooveLock works with midi files from RMX only , or other midis can be dropped into Omnisphere ? .
Sure....not just RMX.

Groove Lock works from any MIDI Files.
It's a clear sign of your respect for us , your mate musicians . Thank you .

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Eric,

I note that Omnisphere uses disk streaming. When I got my hands on EWQL Symphony Orchestra, the manual recommended using 10,000 rpm Raptors to stream the samples from. I now have a pair of these in my Mac Pro - but I don't have 50 GB free space right now. Of course, I can buy a bigger Raptor to allow for this.

Can you give any recommendation on this to enable users achieve optimum performance from Omnisphere please?

Kind regards.
Dave Bourke
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setAI wrote:don't know if this was posted before but check it out
:o
fak. how rich and musical is that sample fm. And the granular synthesis - what it does to the paraphonic saw :o :-o :o

I'm in for sure.

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spectrum wrote:
jay101 wrote:just buy absynth
You are most welcome to, but that would give you a completely different synthesizer. :-)
yes but by adding (in a future update of course) user samples and custom waveforms for lfos and oscillators you will make absynth obsolete

the small look i have had at omni's envelopes look great but how long can they be
i am assuming then can all sync to the master clock but can they unsync and play out and loop for a long time (like several minutes)?

one of the best features of absynth is its long lfo times
buy using usual shapes as the waveform and setting the time for several minutes to control various parameters you can create amazing ambient soundscapes by hold just one note

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p.s. when I started out, this is what I imagined samplers could do. When I finally got one, I was disappointed (to say the least) with the rather small set of tools they actually offered. The neuron and the v-synth went some way towards these radical sound reshaping possibilities, but from the sounds coming out of this video, it'll be omnisphere that finally gets me there.

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spectrum wrote:
standalone wrote:Just one question : GrooveLock works with midi files from RMX only , or other midis can be dropped into Omnisphere ? .
Sure....not just RMX.

Groove Lock works from any MIDI Files.
wow!!!!

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the Live Mode has excited me as well- something that I have missed since my EPS' layer buttons- you can change patches WHILE PLAYING and held notes will keep playing the original patch while you add in the new sound- or you can layer them in and out on the fly smoothly they way you want to-

you can see a good example of that at the 5:00 minute mark here

I can just imagine all those gigs of samples abstracted by granular/FM/RM and complex arpegiations being layered in and out in live performance and free flow composition! :love:

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Sascha Franck wrote:
spectrum wrote: Groove Lock works from any MIDI Files.
Seriously, Eric, whomever thought out "Groove Lock" (probably I should rather say "invented" it) needs to be praised big time.
I have always been a sucker for temposynced "things" (be it delays, arpeggiators, multistage envelopes, LFOs and what not), but more than once I found myself running into a situation where things simply wouldn't match because I'd used some ever so slight swing percentages and what not. So I slways wished that someone would come up with a solution for that dilemma.
Then I watched your Omnisphere teasers and what can I say? Just "wow" - I mean, that's pretty much just exactly what I was always thinking of as being the perfect solution.

Really, for me, this alone makes Omnisphere a lot more than just "worth considering".

So, give the guy who brought this one up a big pat on the back from me. And in case it was you, feel yourself praised quite a bit from over here.
Thanks!

But this Groove Lock possibility wouldn't exist without Glenn Olander's technical framework he designed for SAGE and STEAM, so Glenn and our software team certainly deserve the bulk of the credit for Groove Lock.

We had been working for a long time developing a lot of good foundational technology for STEAM and suddenly, we all realized...HEY! We could actually make the Arpeggiator do this! :-)

Pretty nice moment when we tried Groove Lock out for the first time and it just worked! :-)

spectrum

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Dave Bourke wrote:Eric,

I note that Omnisphere uses disk streaming. When I got my hands on EWQL Symphony Orchestra, the manual recommended using 10,000 rpm Raptors to stream the samples from. I now have a pair of these in my Mac Pro - but I don't have 50 GB free space right now. Of course, I can buy a bigger Raptor to allow for this.

Can you give any recommendation on this to enable users achieve optimum performance from Omnisphere please?

Kind regards.
Fast drives are a smart way to go of course.

There's a chapter in the Reference Guide devoted to optimizing Performance with Omnisphere.

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**Eric**__ all of that sounds amazing trully... no doubt even i still have lots and lots to learn about omnisphere and what it can do for me... i look forward to the months and years ahead of me it takes to learn this golden beast..... im just happy i have the chance too***** great stuff guys truly****

p.s. as a side note... ill give whomever at spectrsonics a golden application after the 25th of this months... becuase ill be in the la area... sorta.. near colorodo.... and ill get some supa star signautures for recomendations for you no prob...... its just taking too damn long for the t ime to come.. ya know.... arggggggggggggggggggggg>> lol heheheh :x

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Touch_the_Universe is Eric's biggest fan, it seems... :)

As for the rest of you impatient bunnies - can't you just wait another week until it's released? I'm sure all the obvious questions Eric is answering will be covered then - not that Eric doesn't mind talking about their new baby, of course.. ;)
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beej wrote: As for the rest of you impatient bunnies - can't you just wait another week until it's released?)
Nope! (because then the hype would die!)

Lawrence

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arrgg. biggest fan**** hahahlol.. eat dirt.. poster beej :P :hihi: :lol:

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jackmazzotti wrote:the small look i have had at omni's envelopes look great but how long can they be?
Each of the eight envelopes can be up to 100 seconds long.

You can have as many points in the envelope as you'd like! :-)

I think Glenn set the limit in the thousands or millions of points or something insane like that. Haven't hit the limit yet...that's for sure!

i am assuming then can all sync to the master clock but can they unsync and play out and loop for a long time (like several minutes)?
Yes...think more like weeks though. Not sure who exactly would want to hold a note that long, but maybe Stephen Halpern might dig that. :-)
one of the best features of absynth is its long lfo times
buy using usual shapes as the waveform and setting the time for several minutes to control various parameters you can create amazing ambient soundscapes by hold just one note
Oh yeah...you can do all that kind of stuff with Omnisphere for sure.

Gets pretty nuts when you have Looping envelopes with evolving chaos shapes modulating other LFOs and Envelopes with evolving shapes and those are fed through Dual Source Morphing inputs that are feeding back into the original envelope times which are feeding other looping envelopes at different rates....etc, etc.

You get the idea. :-)

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