MU.LAB 2.0 Release

[liquidsound]

Hello,

in the newest MU.LAB, when I create a new synth in a new empty project, and I click DIRECTLY on the "Choose Plug-In" roll-down menu of a rack, without clicking on it (that would cause the clicked rack to stay expanded, and all the other ones are collapsed), and selecting an arbitrary synth, for example Synthia, or a VST Synth, gives a red "Serious error has occured" fatal error message.

Best Regards,
Adam

Same here, same crash sequence, every time.
The rest is great so far. Great synths sound. Are any additional Banks for Synthia or Musynth to be found somewhere?

[admc]

New idea: it would be a useful function that can duplicate sequences. I need it a lot of times when I would like to write something like an existing one, but modified a bit. And then I must copy-paste the notes into a new sequence and rename it again. It would be easier to duplicate it.

And if I talk about renaming sequences, another usability ease would be if one could config if he wants to get the (re)name sequence box automatically, each time when a new sequence is created (or duplicated, please ). I don't like those automatic names like "Sequence(1)".

[robenestobenz]

First off, possible bugs:

- Context menu doesn't accept selecting items with keystrokes in the cool way it used to, only seems to respond to the last letter now. Is this deliberate? Hope not, because I loved being able to pick a VST more or less instantly by its first 3 letters.

- Can't select audio from right to left in audio editor

- Solo doesn't seem work properly with the little speaker icons on the tracks. It does if you change the track order though.

- Pen tool on velocity bars -- when zoomed out at even a moderate distance if you drag the point of the pencil on the centre of a velocity bar with another immediately to its right, quite often it's the one to the right that will be affected and not the one you dragged over. Might just be a design problem with the pencil cursor image?

And a suggestion:

- MIDI sequences -- maybe last inserted note should be one selected? I can't see a reason why you'd want the focus to be elsewhere.

Finally, I love the autorecover feature where you pick each VST to be loaded. Very elegant solution, this.

[MuTools]

in the newest MU.LAB, when I create a new synth in a new empty project, and I click DIRECTLY on the "Choose Plug-In" roll-down menu of a rack, without clicking on it (that would cause the clicked rack to stay expanded, and all the other ones are collapsed), and selecting an arbitrary synth, for example Synthia, or a VST Synth, gives a red "Serious error has occured" fatal error message.

Damn, i can't repeat that here

What i do is:

* New Session
* Click on Rack A, slot 1
* Choose Synthia from the popup menu

No crash.

Can you please give me a step by step.

Thanks!

[MuTools]

Are any additional Banks for Synthia or Musynth to be found somewhere?

Not yet here at MUTOOLS.

Hopefully MU.LAB users will share patches too.

[MuTools]

New idea: it would be a useful function that can duplicate sequences. I need it a lot of times when I would like to write something like an existing one, but modified a bit. And then I must copy-paste the notes into a new sequence and rename it again. It would be easier to duplicate it.

It's in there:

* right-click sequence part
* choose Part -> Duplicate Sequence

And if I talk about renaming sequences, another usability ease would be if one could config if he wants to get the (re)name sequence box automatically, each time when a new sequence is created (or duplicated, please ). I don't like those automatic names like "Sequence(1)".

Ok, so lets ask other users too:

Would you prefer that the sequence name dialog auto pops up when you create a new sequence?

[MuTools]

- Context menu doesn't accept selecting items with keystrokes in the cool way it used to, only seems to respond to the last letter now. Is this deliberate? Hope not, because I loved being able to pick a VST more or less instantly by its first 3 letters.

Strange, nothing has changed here.

Can you please give me a step by step example where it doesn't work as you expect.

- Can't select audio from right to left in audio editor

Added on whishlist.

- Solo doesn't seem work properly with the little speaker icons on the tracks. It does if you change the track order though.

Did a quick check, but don't see what's wrong with track solo.

Can you please elaborate.

- Pen tool on velocity bars -- when zoomed out at even a moderate distance if you drag the point of the pencil on the centre of a velocity bar with another immediately to its right, quite often it's the one to the right that will be affected and not the one you dragged over. Might just be a design problem with the pencil cursor image?

I see what you mean.

Thing is: MU.LAB looks at the the time position of the cursor to define which bar to edit. The bar width is currently not taken into account.

Added an improvement note on the whishlist.

- MIDI sequences -- maybe last inserted note should be one selected? I can't see a reason why you'd want the focus to be elsewhere.

Sounds logical indeed. And more consistent to the composer behaviour.

Added on the whishlist.

Thanks!

[admc]

No crash.

Can you please give me a step by step.

I don't know what's the exact rule to generate a crash, because sometimes it crashes, sometimes it doesn't. Today I tried it about 8 times on after the other and once it crashed. Some ideas that worked for me: try it with another rack, with another Synth, maybe VST Synth.

Important: restart MU.LAB after each try, and click on the popup button in the rack immediately.

Maybe it now "remembers" something, so maybe with a new install or after a computer restart it will crash.

[admc]

It's in there:

* right-click sequence part
* choose Part -> Duplicate Sequence

Great!

Ok, so lets ask other users too:

Would you prefer that the sequence name dialog auto pops up when you create a new sequence?

That's also OK, but what I wanted to say is to place a checkbox somewhere near Edit > Preferences, so that everyone can set their preference about this sequence name dialog. (Individuality instead of democracy. )

[Bonteburg]

A musession file was corrupted in such a way that I couldn't add any new tracks - very weird but it's the first time it ever happened so it must be a rare occurence indeed:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/13/ ... .MuSession

I deleted all the plugs and it's still there.

[MuTools]

Important: restart MU.LAB after each try, and click on the popup button in the rack immediately.

What do you mean with 'immediately'?

[admc]

Important: restart MU.LAB after each try, and click on the popup button in the rack immediately.

What do you mean with 'immediately'?

Not the speed of clicking is important, but that you don't click anywhere else before clicking on the popup button.

[MuTools]

A musession file was corrupted in such a way that I couldn't add any new tracks - very weird but it's the first time it ever happened so it must be a rare occurence indeed:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/13/ ... .MuSession

I deleted all the plugs and it's still there.

Open the musession and do a full vertical zoom out : vertical scrollbar -> overview button.

That will fix it.

Thanks to your report i noticed that there indeed is an issue when doing a full vertical zoom out when there are no tracks.

Fixed in the next update.

[MuTools]

Important: restart MU.LAB after each try, and click on the popup button in the rack immediately.

What do you mean with 'immediately'?

Not the speed of clicking is important, but that you don't click anywhere else before clicking on the popup button.

Ok, could repeat the crash. Researching...

[robenestobenz]

- Context menu doesn't accept selecting items with keystrokes in the cool way it used to, only seems to respond to the last letter now. Is this deliberate? Hope not, because I loved being able to pick a VST more or less instantly by its first 3 letters.

Strange, nothing has changed here.

Ah, maybe it's because of the expanded menu levels config setting you told me about. I'll check when I get home.

Re. the sequence name upon creating a new sequence -- I'd really prefer not to have this -- I find using colours to differentiate sequences is quicker for me in Mulab. Obviously, if it was an option I wouldn't mind at all.

On which note, I think the mulab.txt settings file is actually quite a good idea for a certain kind of user. It means that the kind of users who like to customise things can still do so, but that the rest don't have to be confronted by option dialogs that are as populous as Tokyo. It would eventually perhaps be good to stick this stuff into an "Advanced" options dialogue though, IMO.