how are you copying?Axl wrote:Yeah, perfectly. Try to copy and paste some collection clips and then come back and talk about perfect.oxbee wrote:Considering I'm on PC and we are probably a vast majority there's no luck to hope. It just works perfectly here. Sorry to tell, again.For those that keep using it, I really do wish all of you the best of luck.
I mean the cutting and copying of grouped clips by cutting and copying the "meta" clip at the top of the folder track aka collection clip. I and everybody else who's tried it get totally chaotic results with clips missing or being added on new tracks. Although I'm on a Mac I would be surprised if this would be any different on the PC version.djsubject wrote:how are you copying?Axl wrote:Yeah, perfectly. Try to copy and paste some collection clips and then come back and talk about perfect.oxbee wrote:Considering I'm on PC and we are probably a vast majority there's no luck to hope. It just works perfectly here. Sorry to tell, again.For those that keep using it, I really do wish all of you the best of luck.
Ctrl drag is fine here,
by collection clips you do mean the ones that are on the folder track?
Subz
+1.jbafrombordeaux wrote:Works fine for me.
I composed something like 20 songs with T3, and never had any single issue with collection clips or whatever.Yeah, perfectly. Try to copy and paste some collection clips and then come back and talk about perfect.
I do care. In fact, I care a lot about Tracktion. Maybe a little too much.oxbee wrote:Oh, and for those who just care.
I was reading a review in one of our french audio magazine issued in December 2007.
It was about Logic Studio. And they said Logic Studio hadn't been updated in 3 years until Logic Studio.
The translation was: "Three years without any major update, it's very long, too long for a software that is supposed to be top-notch one"
So I suppose a lot of users were frustrated with that because it certainly got bugs like any software.
I hope T is not discontinued, otherwise I'll have in the future to learn the 400 pages reaper manual too )Axl, my message was more some kind of "hope" regarding the delay between updates. The article was mentionning that many bugs were still pending but nobody was considering that Logic was dead back then. Though I consider the Tracktion Mac debacle is absolutely abnormal.I do care. In fact, I care a lot about Tracktion. Maybe a little too much.
"Major update" means a version update means new features. Logic 7 had numerous minor bug fixing updates, so this comparison does not apply.
Personally, I've never cared much about new Tracktion features. All I've ever wanted since I got my Macbook Pro 2 years ago was a working version of Tracktion (2, 3 or whatever). So far I haven't gotten this.
Anyway, I tried to reproduce the collection clip mess I've always had when I tried to cut and paste with just a couple of midi tracks without any plugins and everything worked okay so it must have to do with either adding audio tracks or plugins. I'm not alone with this issue. You can find the corresponding thread on this forum. My major issue though remains the ridiculously slow GUI where the midi editor and the faders in the lower section are basically not usable with the mouse.
I'm really happy for you PC users who have a "perfectly" working software. Ours remains broken.
Ah well... 60+ tracks of audio! Do you really think it's a normal use of that kind of host, or any host?The PC version isnt perfect. In fact - its unusable with big projects. Im working on 60-70-100 tracks of audio, some midi. 3 different PCs with WinXP with updates and without. 3 different persons. Big projects means - opening in a matter of MINUTES!, GUI sluggishness, "thinking" for about 1-2 minutes when trying to hit PLAY (and im making some storys then to my clients ...), plugin GUI messed up after some time working on an open edit (sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes 1 hour), loosing projects (WHOLE!), loosing edits, messed edits, archive totally messed up with big projects, problems with 2 and 4 core utilization and a LOT of minor bugs that makes your work HARD and sometimes impossible. With big projects, massive tracks routing and stuff.
After a few years im looking for a new host...
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Facing the SAME issues my friend. Am not experiencing any of these problems with any other host on my machine. I think one of the posters above is correct though in stating that Mackie didn't design T3 to be used as a professional piece of software, more for the home hobbyist laying down minimal tracks. I think I/we have simply outgrown it and it's time to move on to something more stable that is meant to handle larger projects. The bugs that you mentioned though effect smaller projects (20 tracks and less) as well and should have been addressed a LONG time ago. Losing entire projects, the insane CPU usage, waiting a half hour or longer to freeze 30 tracks so I can continue etc. is simply unacceptable.hefalump wrote:The PC version isn't perfect. In fact - its unusable with big projects. Im working on 60-70-100 tracks of audio, some midi. 3 different PCs with WinXP with updates and without. 3 different persons. Big projects means - opening in a matter of MINUTES!, GUI sluggishness, "thinking" for about 1-2 minutes when trying to hit PLAY (and im making some storys then to my clients ...), plugin GUI messed up after some time working on an open edit (sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes 1 hour), loosing projects (WHOLE!), loosing edits, messed edits, archive totally messed up with big projects, problems with 2 and 4 core utilization and a LOT of minor bugs that makes your work HARD and sometimes impossible. With big projects, massive tracks routing and stuff.
After a few years im looking for a new host...
I most certainly can. I've been avoiding adding to this discussion (my last song finally got completed so I'm finally done with T3), but when I read posts like this, it is almost as frustrating as working with T3. I have absolutely no problems laying down 60 to 100 tracks within Cubase, Reason, Reaper or even Sony Acid Pro6 for that matter. Sorry but this type of statement holds absolutely no water.oxbee wrote:Ah well... 60+ tracks of audio! Do you really think it's a normal use of that kind of host, or any host?The PC version isnt perfect. In fact - its unusable with big projects. Im working on 60-70-100 tracks of audio, some midi. 3 different PCs with WinXP with updates and without. 3 different persons. Big projects means - opening in a matter of MINUTES!, GUI sluggishness, "thinking" for about 1-2 minutes when trying to hit PLAY (and im making some storys then to my clients ...), plugin GUI messed up after some time working on an open edit (sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes 1 hour), loosing projects (WHOLE!), loosing edits, messed edits, archive totally messed up with big projects, problems with 2 and 4 core utilization and a LOT of minor bugs that makes your work HARD and sometimes impossible. With big projects, massive tracks routing and stuff.
After a few years im looking for a new host...
You can't point out the weaknesses of Tracktion with such a use of it. It's just not reasonable.
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