Is Tracktion now an orphan?

[jonnyG]

P.S. Defragging your HDD every day may shorten the life or your hard drive.

It's certainly not gonna make it last any longer. Anyway, defragging daily in the days of Fat32 may have been something we all tried out of despair, but today - with NTFS and better data transfer rates - it's overkill. Weekly should be more than enough unless there's something very wrong with buffering settings. Keeping all audio (including a temp audio folder) on a separate drive or partition should help too.

[Neil G]

I would like a detailed description of each track, if you are using 100 tracks.

Lol...too funny, Unfortunately I think I would crash your T3 if I sent detailed descriptions of each track

In all seriousness, working in a professional environment, 60 to 100 and more tracks is not that unreasonable (The Titanic soundtrack in itself was 370 tracks I believe). I write mostly epics and sound scores so.....

10 tracks minimum for drums
8 tracks or so for guitars
2 tracks for Bass, I usually double track the bass and pan them far left and far right
2 tracks for lead vocals
4 to 8 tracks on harmony
30 plus tracks for synth work since I use a ton of different patches
10 or so tracks for sound effects
4 or so tracks for misc. instruments, Flute, Piano, Organ etc.

so there you go, that's a minimum of 70 tracks right there alone, and that's pretty much a bare bones setup for me anyways.

Gabriel

10 tracks for drums I can understand... I don't do that but maybe I should.

8 tracks for guitars ....MMAAAAAYYYBE I don't play guitar I really don't know if that is necessary


but 30 tracks for synths... I am going to have to give you a big LOL. I would say work more efficiently or get better synths that can stack patches, my first computer could not handle 3 synths at once.



Just some food for thought to every one who uses more than 20 tracks per song. There has been a lot of great music created on 4, 8 tracks maybe just as a practice drill for making music; try to compose a song using only 4 tracks...



P.S. Defragging your HDD every day may shorten the life or your hard drive.

basically it all comes down to how your comfy working.. if he wants 30 synth tracks then so be it.. who are you to tell him his methods are wrong?

when at the end of the song and doing FX and whooshy sounds etc.. i usually use at least ten synth tracks too..people do do it.

if it works in Logic 8, why cant it work in T3?

[warbug]

If it works in other tune use them.

[thoshu]

Each to his own, gentlemen, but: back to topic: is Tracktion an orphan now?

[Mr. Tingle]

Each to his own, gentlemen, but: back to topic: is Tracktion an orphan now?

errrr, yes.

[Gabriel_S]

I would like a detailed description of each track, if you are using 100 tracks.

Lol...too funny, Unfortunately I think I would crash your T3 if I sent detailed descriptions of each track

In all seriousness, working in a professional environment, 60 to 100 and more tracks is not that unreasonable (The Titanic soundtrack in itself was 370 tracks I believe). I write mostly epics and sound scores so.....

10 tracks minimum for drums
8 tracks or so for guitars
2 tracks for Bass, I usually double track the bass and pan them far left and far right
2 tracks for lead vocals
4 to 8 tracks on harmony
30 plus tracks for synth work since I use a ton of different patches
10 or so tracks for sound effects
4 or so tracks for misc. instruments, Flute, Piano, Organ etc.

so there you go, that's a minimum of 70 tracks right there alone, and that's pretty much a bare bones setup for me anyways.

Gabriel

Just some food for thought to every one who uses more than 20 tracks per song. There has been a lot of great music created on 4, 8 tracks maybe just as a practice drill for making music; try to compose a song using only 4 tracks...

The only limitations a musician places on their musical compositions and production skills is their imagination!! But I suppose you're right, why waste money on psychotherapy when you can listen to the B Minor Mass?


Gabriel

[mrcleats]

Back on topic - is Tracktion an orphan?

I don't much care if it works for you, that's not the point - it works for me too.

Question is, is it an unsupported, going nowhere, piece of software? If that's the case you'd clearly be better off with something else. If you don't agree, that's fine - you can use Tracktion on your XP SP3 for ever.

It's just a pity, that's all. It would be nice if Mackie would come out and say something about their strategy for Tracktion. I wouldn't blame them either way, but some indication would be very nice.

[strav100]

Got Tracktion 2 at the time - no longer use it - things have moved on. EnergyXT is the best cheapo DAW at the moment. I've progresed to Sonar and Live now.


-er 370 tracks for Titanic - f******g stupid and wasteful I'll say

[metamorphosis]

P.S. Defragging your HDD every day may shorten the life or your hard drive.

It's certainly not gonna make it last any longer. Anyway, defragging daily in the days of Fat32 may have been something we all tried out of despair, but today - with NTFS and better data transfer rates - it's overkill. Weekly should be more than enough unless there's something very wrong with buffering settings. Keeping all audio (including a temp audio folder) on a separate drive or partition should help too.

I don't recommend less than 3 months, typically. 6 months for a bog-standard home-user without daw.
m@

[Mauvehead]

Where's Beno?

[metamorphosis]

Hiding in the suburbs
m@

[hefalump]

Drive with recorded audio should be defragmented BEFORE recording and NEVER after it until you aint gonna use it anymore.

For guitars - 3 mics, 2 overdubs channel left-right, solo on center, every part of the tune on different tracks to make things easier. Count this.

[Graeme]

Drive with recorded audio should be defragmented BEFORE recording and NEVER after it until you aint gonna use it anymore.

I agree with the first statement, it's much better to have a large contiguous space on the drive before recording.

The second statement makes no sense to me at all. If you already have a fragmented audio file on the disk, then defragging that disk will re-compile into one contiguous file. It's certainly not going to do any harm to the disk or the recording, as implied above, and may well do some good.

[hefalump]

You are right if you are recording one track/file at a time. But remember that in multitrack recording tracks arent written file after file but part of a file after part of a file. reading this should be easier for HDD than going from one file to another file to another file and so on. But i will gladly hear someone whos into system/host/audio programming rather than amateur in this stuff - like me ie

[metamorphosis]

Defragging before or after doesn't matter. I suggest you read up on the subject. Ideally you want large contiguous blocks of space to record to, but it's not really that big a deal.