Effectrix/Logic 8 tempo problem+crash

[Loopy C]

Hi, enjoying Effectrix but found a circumstance which causes problems (from digital distorted output to complete crash). If the tempo is set below 50 in Logic 8 the sound is distorted and I get the message:



I also got a crash trying to recover from this, once I realized it was a particular tempo that did it then I encountered no other problems when not going below 50.

I did not see a support address to send crash reports? as I do have one related to this problem.

Otherwise, a great plug-in....the MIDI triggering of the sequence was absolutely key for me as I do not myself enjoy simple loops of an effect, using the triggered approach I can create the variations that animate when effects appear over a track. Overall a very nice job both sonically and visually


Logic 8 / OSX 10.4.11 /2gb RAM / Built-in Audio

Machine Name: PowerBook G4 17"
Machine Model: PowerBook5,9
CPU Type: PowerPC G4 (1.5)
Number Of CPUs: 1
CPU Speed: 1.67 GHz
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz

[Loopy C]

...and as a flagrant attempt to 'bump' this post (in a most legally and hopefully 'polite' manner), here's some 'demo' tracks

http://loopyc.com/?p=18

[scatterrat]

Nice demos loopy, just curious were you pretty much just triggering the plug via midi and using the 1/32 note speed? And it sounded like you mostly had only one plug on at a time.If you could just explain how you are using it I'm sure othes would be interested also.

I like how when used this way the loops are not nearly so static and you can easily come up infinite variations!

[Loopy C]

Nice demos loopy, just curious were you pretty much just triggering the plug via midi and using the 1/32 note speed? And it sounded like you mostly had only one plug on at a time.If you could just explain how you are using it I'm sure othes would be interested also.

I like how when used this way the loops are not nearly so static and you can easily come up infinite variations!

Hey thanks scatterrat , these were my first hours with 'Effectrix' and indeed I was only 'sold' once I saw how I could trigger the sequence via MIDI not to sound 'looped'. Perhaps a couple of screenshots will help?






Basically a 'phasing' effect (note the changing barlines of MIDI trigger loop against straight drum loop barlines in screenshot 1) is COMBINED with a length-graduated MIDI trigger ALONG with varying single FX parameter automations (screenshot 2) over course of track (an automation 'homage to Jackson Pollack perhaps?)

Different 'Effectrix' presets were 'adopted' for each track to 'taste', as were the settings for clock multiplier.


Hope that helps

[scatterrat]

Awesome thanks, two questions though, 1. Did you use the something from the transform function to get the changing note spacing and values on your effectrix midi track or was that manual programing?

2. you said you customized clock multiplier settings, what is a clock multiplier?

Nice automation, all those squigilly lines make your tracks look crazy!

[Sugar Bytes]

Thanks for your report Loopy C. There is indeed a minimum possible BPM value of 45. This limitation exists in order to limit the memory usage. Since we have a lot bpm synced delays and loopers in Effectrix, the amount of memory is growing as the bpm gets lower. I'll have a look why Effectrix is behaving like you described. It will propably be fixed in the upcoming update.

[Loopy C]

Awesome thanks, two questions though, 1. Did you use the something from the transform function to get the changing note spacing and values on your effectrix midi track or was that manual programing?

2. you said you customized clock multiplier settings, what is a clock multiplier?

Nice automation, all those squigilly lines make your tracks look crazy!

1. Hand drawn (increasing durations/rests)

2. What you referred to as '1/32' in Effectrix lingo is what I was considering a 'multiplier', as it controls the ratio of speed of the sequencer in relation to the 'master' tempo.


In a former life I was a graphic designer and am always looking to combining ideas from that discipline as applied to 'systems' for music processing/input

[Loopy C]

Thanks for your report Loopy C. There is indeed a minimum possible BPM value of 45. This limitation exists in order to limit the memory usage. Since we have a lot bpm synced delays and loopers in Effectrix, the amount of memory is growing as the bpm gets lower. I'll have a look why Effectrix is behaving like you described. It will propably be fixed in the upcoming update.

Aha, ok then

[Jasomuzik]

Loopy C,
IM also a logic 8 user , I basically get the concept of what u did here. What im not understanding is the relevance of the midi track 2 where u were drawing in notes. Can u please explain the " phasing effect".How do u acheive the effect ect.? I also would like to achieve the same non looping sound. Please try to keep it in laymen terms i can barely follow ur expert explanation O one other thing what are all the crazy lines automating??
thx a million,
JASOMUZIK

[Loopy C]

Been awhile but let me see...

The 'gradated' MIDI track 2 you referred to is triggering the START of the 'Effectrix' sequence so that the START is increasingly extended over original bar lines and thus the sequence itself is longer AND triggered later in relationship to this longer/extended duration against anything else being played THROUGH it (as in this example a SET length loop).


'Phasing (see WIKIPEDIA concerning Steve Reich) means setting two identical things against each in a looping pattern so that the second copy is somehow slightly different in length and over time it 'phases' it's relationship. In Steve Reich's case it was a VERY small difference between two tape machines running the same loop which over time completely reinvented the rhythm and language of his source material. In my case, it is a much more 'course' version that seeks to simply add variety in a related and progressive manner, subconsciously 'not random' and a far more organic methodology than basic 'fill' strategies that belie an underlying 'grid' without being 'rigid'.

Does that help? It's my quick answer which, if still too 'esoteric' in language I will try harder next time

[Loopy C]

Hey Jasomuzik, I think I fixed my 'player', check your 'PM'.