I think I get the generator but its not really intuitive. It took me forever to figure out the changes were taking place in the editor and not the generator because I wasn't in playback mode.
Expectations (keep in mind that I am in the Beat section only at this point)
I thought I would be starting with a blank grid. I would hit the button to generate a loop and the grid at the bottom would fill with a random variation of a beat/rhythm based on the type of beat I was looking for. This is not the case.
I then thought that loops created in the generator could be adjusted there to taste and then saved or copy/paste into the editor for use. Once again not the case really even though they can be copied it does not appear to be the desired use of the generator.
Confused
I think[i/] that I...
1. load a rhythm into the loop window in the generator screen
2. choose the type of rhythm that I want to generate
3. click the generator button
At this point the rhythms in the editor on all the Beat keys in the loop piano are changed to match the generated rhythm. I'm not sure of the value of this as most of the rhythms created are already available in the directories as pre-made rhythms. I think that if I am looking to generate a new rhythm I'd like to try it out before I overwrite items in the editor.
It's at this point that I think that I have it all wrong. And maybe I'm a bit dull in the head but I think some others might be confused when they go to use this section as well. Vojtech, will there be a tutorial for this section coming along at some point? The more I use it the less I understand.
Understanding the Rhythm Generator
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- KVRist
- 307 posts since 1 May, 2003
I am confused on this point as well.
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122 - KVRAF
- 14325 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Yeah, this definitely needs a tutorial. Except there was no time yet.
You are any kind of dull, this is just so new technology, that it is probably hard to understand. So I'll explain a little :
When you look close and several rhythms and grooves you have heard, you can see that most of them are some kind of "combinations" of patterns. It is logically implicated by the fact, that people play them.
Basically each groove can be divided into (our terminology):
- Percussive background.
- Base beat (or essential beat).
Percussive background is usually played on cymbals, hihats, cowbells etc. Base beat is containing bass and snare drums, sometimes toms etc.
The interesting thing about it is, that the variety of styles in the world share them and create different combinations. For example when you look at some particular pop and reggae rhythms, they have absolutely same base beat. And when you look at reggae, r'n'b and funky, they may have the same percussive background.
When you look at breaks for different styles, you can see similarities too.
No imagine - to get a good rhythm you need several complexity levels, each containing percussive and base beat, and for each you need also fills (in our case +intros, outros and long breaks). Which means about 100 hours of work
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But when you know, that there are already several breaks done (shortened of percussive background), and there are base rhythms (containing only percussive background), everything you need is this:
1) Select what kind of breaks you need.
2) Select what percussive background you need. This typically defines the style, but may not. Moreover this great for creating some fusion stuff.
3) Create the base beat - essential beat editor.
Rhythm generator itself does not contain any full rhythms. Only a single loop - the essential beat. Your goal is to set all of these (which mostly means only the (3) ) and click process.
There is small text tutorial in the help (main application ? button).
I hope this helps. If you need more info, do not hesitate and ask me!
You are any kind of dull, this is just so new technology, that it is probably hard to understand. So I'll explain a little :
When you look close and several rhythms and grooves you have heard, you can see that most of them are some kind of "combinations" of patterns. It is logically implicated by the fact, that people play them.
Basically each groove can be divided into (our terminology):
- Percussive background.
- Base beat (or essential beat).
Percussive background is usually played on cymbals, hihats, cowbells etc. Base beat is containing bass and snare drums, sometimes toms etc.
The interesting thing about it is, that the variety of styles in the world share them and create different combinations. For example when you look at some particular pop and reggae rhythms, they have absolutely same base beat. And when you look at reggae, r'n'b and funky, they may have the same percussive background.
When you look at breaks for different styles, you can see similarities too.
No imagine - to get a good rhythm you need several complexity levels, each containing percussive and base beat, and for each you need also fills (in our case +intros, outros and long breaks). Which means about 100 hours of work
.But when you know, that there are already several breaks done (shortened of percussive background), and there are base rhythms (containing only percussive background), everything you need is this:
1) Select what kind of breaks you need.
2) Select what percussive background you need. This typically defines the style, but may not. Moreover this great for creating some fusion stuff.
3) Create the base beat - essential beat editor.
Rhythm generator itself does not contain any full rhythms. Only a single loop - the essential beat. Your goal is to set all of these (which mostly means only the (3) ) and click process.
There is small text tutorial in the help (main application ? button).
I hope this helps. If you need more info, do not hesitate and ask me!