Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
- KVRAF
- 8238 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
I got payed today and just bought Sylenth, and then got the download link after about half an hour.
I've bought Predator and Massive. I also bought Reason 4 and messed about with Thor and the combinator.
I've also got the demos of Nexus, Zebra blah blah blah.
At the risk of sounding like teenage fanboy Sylenth is just f@ckin awesome, hence the ha ha ha ha.......
Set up my MIDI controller knobs to cutoff and res and just sat there playing like a child for 3 hours. Simply brilliant.
For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
Love it.
I've bought Predator and Massive. I also bought Reason 4 and messed about with Thor and the combinator.
I've also got the demos of Nexus, Zebra blah blah blah.
At the risk of sounding like teenage fanboy Sylenth is just f@ckin awesome, hence the ha ha ha ha.......
Set up my MIDI controller knobs to cutoff and res and just sat there playing like a child for 3 hours. Simply brilliant.
For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
Love it.
- KVRian
- 1134 posts since 4 May, 2008 from West London Depot
LOL I got all those synths plus a lot more, I feel exactly the same way about sylenth:-)
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Thank you, that was exactly the topic i had in mind now. Since several months i own and use Sylenth1. Besides that i own a crazy big amount of other synths. like e.g. VAZ Modular 3, AAS Tassman 4, NI Massive, NI Absynth 4, Zebra 2.3, Rob Papen Predator, Linplug Albino 3, Surge, Poly-Ana, Oddity, OP-X Pro, Schwa Olga, Rapture, Arturia Jupiter 8V, Arturia Prophet V, KORG Legacy Analog 2007 and more..... Not to forget SC Synplant and Camel Audio Alchemy which are too new and too different to compare.
No discussion about the cost of all those synths since i know it's crazy, especially for a non-professional user !!!
To make the story short I found myself almost always going to Sylenth1 (or VAZ Modular 3) when i need pure analog sounds. Even my Virus TI is only used very few in this sound category.
I already deinstalled some of the synths mentioned above (all the Arturia stuff !!) and i think about selling some sooner or later.
No discussion about the cost of all those synths since i know it's crazy, especially for a non-professional user !!!
To make the story short I found myself almost always going to Sylenth1 (or VAZ Modular 3) when i need pure analog sounds. Even my Virus TI is only used very few in this sound category.
I already deinstalled some of the synths mentioned above (all the Arturia stuff !!) and i think about selling some sooner or later.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8238 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
I think I know what the difference is, as impressive as some of the other synths are they are just that.... synthesizers - technically brilliant at times and capable of producing some incredible sounds. Somehow though Sylenth can do the same but is also a musical instrument. Which is sort of the point of it in the first place 
- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
I totally agree. Sometimes when playing Sylenth1 i forget it's "just" software.tehlord wrote:I think I know what the difference is, as impressive as some of the other synths are they are just that.... synthesizers - technically brilliant at times and capable of producing some incredible sounds. Somehow though Sylenth can do the same but is also a musical instrument. Which is sort of the point of it in the first place
Ingo Weidner
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- KVRAF
- 12522 posts since 21 Mar, 2008 from Hannover, Germany
Like i tried to mention i try to get rid of some of the gear. Hardware is already down to two synths and a controller. Currently i use less than half of the mentioned softsynths.napalmbob wrote:No wonder you're a "non-professional" artist, how can you get anything done with all that gear?
I bet you have some fun with it though...
In "real life" I am a teacher for chemistry and physics so earning lots of money with music is not my primary goal at the moment. Currently it's school holidays so i have some time for cleaning up my hard drive...
Ingo Weidner
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- KVRian
- 553 posts since 25 Mar, 2008
I am 2/3 through the Synthesizer Programming/Programming Synthesizers book by POeter Gorges.tehlord wrote: For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
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His goal is to teach the reader/studend to create any sound that he/she imagines.
He does a great job.
The books is available in english and german.
Programming Synthesizers ENGLISH:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Englische-Pro ... ::224.html
Synthesizer Programming GERMAN:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Buecher/Musik ... g::63.html
The tutorials in the book use a free synthesizer from Native Instruments. You can download the most recent version of this "Sound School" Synthesizer at NI's website. The synth comes with a few features like Oscilloscope and waveform symmetry knob that not all synths have - so it is usefull for this programming course.
You can of course use the know how for any other synth.
What I like so much about this is:
1.
Peter Gorges immediately starts his hands-on course instead of doing the boring theory first.
2.
His approach of using categories like temperature, animation, aggressiveness, dimension, material for sounds in order to program whatever you imagine seems to be a plausible way to achieve the goal set for this book.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8238 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
blue monk wrote:I am 2/3 through the Synthesizer Programming/Programming Synthesizers book by POeter Gorges.tehlord wrote: For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
.
His goal is to teach the reader/studend to create any sound that he/she imagines.
He does a great job.
The books is available in english and german.
Programming Synthesizers ENGLISH:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Englische-Pro ... ::224.html
Synthesizer Programming GERMAN:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Buecher/Musik ... g::63.html
The tutorials in the book use a free synthesizer from Native Instruments. You can download the most recent version of this "Sound School" Synthesizer at NI's website. The synth comes with a few features like Oscilloscope and waveform symmetry knob that not all synths have - so it is usefull for this programming course.
You can of course use the know how for any other synth.
What I like so much about this is:
1.
Peter Gorges immediately starts his hands-on course instead of doing the boring theory first.
2.
His approach of using categories like temperature, animation, aggressiveness, dimension, material for sounds in order to program whatever you imagine seems to be a plausible way to achieve the goal set for this book.
That's an excellent suggestion. Thanks for the tip
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- KVRAF
- 10260 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris
Imo the best ways to learn how to program :tehlord wrote:
For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
Love it.
1/ Take an init patch and modulate each parameter to see how it affects the instrument. (Yes it should be done with every parameter)
2/ Analyse and deconstruct factory patches of a given synth and try to figure out "how they work". Try to get the most important parameters of an instrument and here again change and modulate them and see how it affects the sound.
3/ Read the manuals. While some people think reading the manuals is pointless, and that everything should be intuitive, it's still the quickest way to learn any intrument. A synth like Massive, for example, can't be mastered without reading the manual, and even if you could master it spending hundreds of hours tweaking this or that knob, the only result would be a Kolossal loss of time.
Then if you happen to master one synth you'll find that many other synths share a lot of features with this first synth. So that's for other synths you'll only have to learn 1/ What make them different from other pretenders 2/ Why the same features sound different on this or that synth. And how to exploit these differences.
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- KVRist
- 93 posts since 11 Jun, 2008
I only use 2 synths now. Sold my Virus TI and a shit load of plugs. I use Zebra and Sylenth now. They are the best synths I have ever heard (hardware or soft). Sylenth has the bite and Zebra has the mellow analoge sounds. You just don't need anything else.
- KVRian
- 1394 posts since 6 May, 2005 from Michigan, USA
Those are my two main ones as well (along with u-he FilterscapeVA and some Omnisphere here and there). I keep trying to work some of my other synths in from time to time (since I bought them and hate to waste them), but 95% of the time, what I'm looking for ends up coming from Zebra or Sylenth now.I only use 2 synths now. Sold my Virus TI and a shit load of plugs. I use Zebra and Sylenth now. They are the best synths I have ever heard (hardware or soft). Sylenth has the bite and Zebra has the mellow analoge sounds. You just don't need anything else.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 8238 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Thanks again for the tips.
Is Zebra really that good? I wasn't particularly blown away by the demo, it sounded a bit clean to me. Saying that i've found the presets in the demo of Sylenth really didnt do it justice at all. The real deal has so much more depth to the included presets.
I'll probably buy more VSTs if im honest. I'm toying with the idea of Audjoo Helix as well, the old free version had an incredible sound.
Is Zebra really that good? I wasn't particularly blown away by the demo, it sounded a bit clean to me. Saying that i've found the presets in the demo of Sylenth really didnt do it justice at all. The real deal has so much more depth to the included presets.
I'll probably buy more VSTs if im honest. I'm toying with the idea of Audjoo Helix as well, the old free version had an incredible sound.
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- KVRian
- 596 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from not where I want to be...
Hm... this books looks interesting. I've always wanted to buy something that will put some order in my messy programming knowledge.blue monk wrote:I am 2/3 through the Synthesizer Programming/Programming Synthesizers book by POeter Gorges.tehlord wrote: For the first time ever I now want to learn more about programming than the obvious filter cutoff knob. Where do I begin ffs?!?
.
His goal is to teach the reader/studend to create any sound that he/she imagines.
He does a great job.
The books is available in english and german.
Programming Synthesizers ENGLISH:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Englische-Pro ... ::224.html
Synthesizer Programming GERMAN:
http://www.wizoobooks.com/Buecher/Musik ... g::63.html
The tutorials in the book use a free synthesizer from Native Instruments. You can download the most recent version of this "Sound School" Synthesizer at NI's website. The synth comes with a few features like Oscilloscope and waveform symmetry knob that not all synths have - so it is usefull for this programming course.
You can of course use the know how for any other synth.
What I like so much about this is:
1.
Peter Gorges immediately starts his hands-on course instead of doing the boring theory first.
2.
His approach of using categories like temperature, animation, aggressiveness, dimension, material for sounds in order to program whatever you imagine seems to be a plausible way to achieve the goal set for this book.
Too bad the order have to wait till the end of the holidays
Thanx for pointing it out.
