Orange Tree Samples releases CoreBass: Cherry

[kingofthedogs]

Thanks for the loops Greg!!!

My pleasure! There will be many more, and for all the CoreBass Cherry libraries.

I played around for a while with the library. There are a lot of cool ideas in it, and I love the idea of putting them together as a 4 bar loop with variations. Sometimes the loops seemed a bit too busy , as were the drums (I was hoping for a bit more "basic" building blocks + just the basic drum groove to "get the picture", so I can add my own fills), to build an arrangement with more instruments around them. But still useable, and most importantly, inspiring. Thank you for that! I also noticed that it was quite hard to get a decent sound with Addictive Drums, although I mapped all midi notes correctly. But it sounded fine with your free jazz kit for Kontakt!

I like the clean and "shapeable" sound a lot and, most of all, the easy playability. In fact, I just decided to buy the third and last one of your bass libraries (the slapped version), which I am downloading right now. I'm really looking forward to the loop library for the picked and the slapped version, which I find hardest to come up with own ideas, so I will be grateful for starting points.

If the loop library will be updated and completed for all bass libraries, there is only one thing left for me to wish for, and that would be the replacement of several out-of-tune samples in the lowest register. I only get to sound them right with Autotune set to extreme settings, which unfortunately "flattens" the sound noticeably with the rest of the notes. It is no problem at all if I correct them manually, but I'd be glad to save the time

All in all, this is a great product for the first release.

Merry Christmas !

[Gregjazz]

If the loop library will be updated and completed for all bass libraries, there is only one thing left for me to wish for, and that would be the replacement of several out-of-tune samples in the lowest register. I only get to sound them right with Autotune set to extreme settings, which unfortunately "flattens" the sound noticeably with the rest of the notes. It is no problem at all if I correct them manually, but I'd be glad to save the time

Since all the samples are tuned manually, it is possible for some to get overlooked. In the next update, I will correct the tuning on these notes--thank you for bringing it to my attention! Is this with one of the libraries, or all of them?

[kingofthedogs]

If the loop library will be updated and completed for all bass libraries, there is only one thing left for me to wish for, and that would be the replacement of several out-of-tune samples in the lowest register. I only get to sound them right with Autotune set to extreme settings, which unfortunately "flattens" the sound noticeably with the rest of the notes. It is no problem at all if I correct them manually, but I'd be glad to save the time

Since all the samples are tuned manually, it is possible for some to get overlooked. In the next update, I will correct the tuning on these notes--thank you for bringing it to my attention! Is this with one of the libraries, or all of them?

The ones I noticed were in the picked version, which I bought first. As far as I can tell, it was only some of the deepest notes. I didn't use the other two libraries much, so I can't really tell, but when I did some short playing right after the purchase, everything sounded right with those. If I notice anything in the future, I'll tell you which notes exactly were affected. But as I said, it can be dealt with by using Autotune, which I use on every bass track anyway, and it doesn't affect the great value-for-money-ratio of your products.

[Gregjazz]

The ones I noticed were in the picked version, which I bought first.

I'll check the other two libraries just to make sure.

But as I said, it can be dealt with by using Autotune, which I use on every bass track anyway, and it doesn't affect the great value-for-money-ratio of your products.

Yeah, using an auto-tune to correct it is a pain (especially due to the added CPU usage), so I'll fix it as soon as possible. I'm in the middle of moving, so progress has slowed (I still will answer emails, of course) on the development side of things. However, I now have two upright basses in my living room at the moment, and a functional scripted fretless engine, so things are coming together for the next big product release!

[P.T.]

Are these samples recorded D.I. or through an amp?
The demos sound excellent.

If the demos were made using an amp sim, what did you use?
Did you EQ the sound for the demo?

The reason I ask is that I am tired of fighting with bass sounds and trying to EQ them to get them to sound good. The demos sound the way I want bass to sound.

If you did EQ on the demos would you tell us specifically what EQing you did so we can get the same results?

[Gregjazz]

Are these samples recorded D.I. or through an amp?
The demos sound excellent.

Thanks! All the CoreBass products as well as CoreGuitar were sampled D.I., so you can use your own post-processing in form of EQ, compression, amp sim, etc.

If the demos were made using an amp sim, what did you use?
Did you EQ the sound for the demo?

I used a little EQ and maybe also some compression in some of the demos. But pretty minimal. I didn't use an amp sim, although the basses sound great going through those.

The reason I ask is that I am tired of fighting with bass sounds and trying to EQ them to get them to sound good. The demos sound the way I want bass to sound.

If you did EQ on the demos would you tell us specifically what EQing you did so we can get the same results?

The bass I sampled has a really nice natural sound, so it won't take much EQ. Generally I use a little boost around the 50-100hz range, and then either boost or cut the highs (depending on what sort of bass part it's playing). Also depending on the mix, I might cut around 100-200hz or so, too. Though like I said, I generally don't put much EQ on CoreBass.

One thing that's fun to do is to drastically boost the highs in CoreBass Slapped or Picked. The noise levels are really low, so you don't have to worry about increasing the noise when you boost the highs.

Let me know if you'd like more details, and I could post pictures of EQ settings, etc.

[P.T.]

"Let me know if you'd like more details, and I could post pictures of EQ settings, etc."

I'd like very much to see EQ pictures. I really have been fighting with bass sounds.
You may have a customer if this bass sounds this good pretty much straight out of the box.

[Gregjazz]

I'd like very much to see EQ pictures. I really have been fighting with bass sounds.
You may have a customer if this bass sounds this good pretty much straight out of the box.

Here's an example: http://www.orangetreesamples.com/files/CoreReggae.mp3

(this is from the "Reggae - Medium (65) - Minor - 1" loop in the CoreBass loop library)

The first section is CoreBass, completely dry. Next you hear it in the mix with my standard EQ and reverb settings (pictures of settings posted below). I included the dry section of the audio sample so that you can load it in your DAW and experiment with EQ, compression, or amp sims for yourself. Let me know if you'd like more dry audio samples of a different genre/playing style.





(these effects are ones which come with Sonar)

[P.T.]

I don't have Kontakt yet. I am considering getting it.

I have 2 instruments that use the Kontakt Player however.
Can I load your bass into the Kontakt Player?

[Gregjazz]

I don't have Kontakt yet. I am considering getting it.

I have 2 instruments that use the Kontakt Player however.
Can I load your bass into the Kontakt Player?

Unfortunately the Kontakt Player that is included with libraries only works with those bundled libraries. I have contacted Native Instruments about bundling the player with my products, but their current licensing would be too expensive. However, I will maintain contact with them since the way their licensing works is going to change, so I still hope to bundle the player with my products in the future. (I just can't make any promises about how soon that would be)

As my products are designed to work with both Kontakt 2 and 3, you could always buy a used/new copy of Kontakt 2, which would be much less expensive than getting Kontakt 3.

[rolley]

Ok, I already purchased the "picked" version. It is great. But, I had never purchased the fingered version. Just noticed the CHEAP 39.95 price and thought what the heck WOW, I actually like this better for the type music I do. You know these basses just fit in a mix. I am amazed at how u "don't" have to add eq etcc. Again I have about ALL the bass vst's/samples out there. I have literally gone through them all and none of them sound as good as Corebass does. I am tired of bragging lol!! But it is the truth.. Happy New Year everyone....

[Gregjazz]

Wow, thank you for the compliments!! You really made my day. Right now I'm working hard on the upcoming upright bass library.

[mojamusic]

Wow, thank you for the compliments!! You really made my day. Right now I'm working hard on the upcoming upright bass library.

Hi Greg. How's the progress on the Upright? If you need testers, I'd love to help.

[Gregjazz]

Wow, thank you for the compliments!! You really made my day. Right now I'm working hard on the upcoming upright bass library.

Hi Greg. How's the progress on the Upright? If you need testers, I'd love to help.

The upright is nearly done. I'm working hard on it, and aiming to have it released by the end of January. There's still the manual to be written, and presets to be made (the Kontakt GUI comes with internal presets as well as the ability to save presets--all within the one NKI file). I kept the DI and mic signals separate, so there's a lot of mixing options to get you a variety of upright bass tones.

I also have the Jaco fretless bass lined up to sample next, which will use the same script as the upright bass.

As far as beta testing, what system do you use (OS, DAW, K2 or K3)?

[mojamusic]

I sent you a pm.