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jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:48 pm

eduardo_b wrote:
herodotus wrote:But Ockeghem and Des Prez did do some things with rhythm that would confuse the hell out of many people living today.
Don't see this attribute as a defining factor...Confusing the hell out of people is not, in my mind, a hallmark of excellence

Is mere simplicity?

It's like blaming listeners for being intellectually lazy when they don't like non-mainstream work.

what nice little pigeonholes: 'mainstream' vs 'non-mainstream'.

I don't see anyone in here having asserted that confusion is a hallmark of excellence, or a defining factor in say an Ockeghem motet. That takes that post out of context, to make what point exactly?

Now, if all one understands in terms of rhythm is duple subdivisions of the time, and they are *confused* by anything with say a larger coefficient than that two, is the fault necessarily in the person acting as musician or as audience, all other factors being equal?

lotus2035 · Post by **lotus2035** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:57 pm

Best Modern Composers

Soulja Boy

Nokenoku · Post by **Nokenoku** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:53 pm

LOL .. good one.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:09 pm

Leonard Bernstein.

yonyz · Post by **yonyz** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:53 am

Hans Zimmer
Ramin Djawadi
Harry Gregson-Williams

Dawbreaker · Post by **Dawbreaker** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 11:57 am

Tore Skogman

PV_INC · Post by **PV_INC** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:26 pm

part, glass, gorecki, SATIE

plexus · Post by **plexus** » Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:04 pm

well well ya male chauvinistic pigs, nothing about carla bley?
anyone?

...or at least hildegard von bingen...

deaf dunderkwac · Post by **deaf dunderkwac** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:15 am

Henry Mancini

mhemnarch · Post by **mhemnarch** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:38 am

John Coltrane, Stravinsky, and Shostakovich spring to mind (not sure if Shostakovich is considered "modern," though), as well as Debussy (who, of course, is too early to really be counted, but always deserves a mention). I've been listening to some Messiaen lately, as well, and it's been fascinating.

jopy · Post by **jopy** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:08 am

plexus wrote:well well ya male chauvinistic pigs, nothing about carla bley?
anyone?

...or at least hildegard von bingen...

hmm, good point, but reaching for more modern than hildegard von bingen, one can include pauline oliveros, delia derbyshire, wendy carlos (she does count), and nadia boulanger had her hands on the development of dozens of the best composers of the 20th century.

when it comes to songwriting, there's aretha franklin, joni mitchell, and carole king. and carla bley too.

strav100 · Post by **strav100** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:36 am

yonyz wrote:Hans Zimmer
Ramin Djawadi
Harry Gregson-Williams

None of these are anywhere near the great 20C composers. (nowhere near, indeed!)
They are film composers - so their music is bound by the demand of the visual image of the film, but their themes are weak compared to the likes of e.g John Williams, and e.g Sir William Walton ( the score for Henry V is great )
Also, Scott of the Antartic - Ralph Vaughan Williams

I'm sorry, the old stuff is much better ( and there wasn't all this mucking about with technology then...)

the_soul · Post by **the_soul** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:17 pm

John Zorn

mmichalski59 · Post by **mmichalski59** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:39 pm

Early in the 20th century
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Prokofiev
Nielsen

Recent
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John Mackey
Jennifer Higdon
David Holsinger

kelvyn · Post by **kelvyn** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:09 pm

Hey! What about these guys...

Irving Berlin
Brian Wilson
Gustav Holst
Cole Porter
Duke Ellington
Andre 3000
Prince