V-Machine

[VFXAU]

Should we start a new post with just

"what are you running on the V-Machine? "

(not for support just that we can share all the knowledge"

[EvilDragon]

I have not tested this particular patch but happy to test for you. I have tested 100's of plugins lately so I can't remember

As far as not having multiple outputs, from what I know the Rack will be 2 out and option to add upto 8 out.

Just a regular lead sound, 3 osc's, introduce feedback via External source, lower the cutoff a bit, a nick of resonance, and then spread the unison width a bit and try 4 and 8 voices unison. 4 voices tax my dualcore at around 20-25% load, so I'm curious if this is gonna choke the V-Machine. And Unison is the key to fat cut-through-the-mix sounds I need.

And the idea for the new topic is excellent, people could share their wizard files and stuff.

[VFXAU]

I have not tested this particular patch but happy to test for you. I have tested 100's of plugins lately so I can't remember

As far as not having multiple outputs, from what I know the Rack will be 2 out and option to add upto 8 out.

Just a regular lead sound, 3 osc's, introduce feedback via External source, lower the cutoff a bit, a nick of resonance, and then spread the unison width a bit and try 4 and 8 voices unison. 4 voices tax my dualcore at around 20-25% load, so I'm curious if this is gonna choke the V-Machine. And Unison is the key to fat cut-through-the-mix sounds I need.

And the idea for the new topic is excellent, people could share their wizard files and stuff.

OK I will start it...

You know that wizards are all on the website as well.. (smpro)

[VFXAU]

OK I will start it...

You know that wizards are all on the website as well..


http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 95#3398295

[schoko]

hi,

does anybody know something about
- AAS Tassman4 (FULL version, not DEMO) now?
- or Albino3? (FULL version, not DEMO)
- or NI synths?

[aMUSEd]

I am not sure if you read the thread back 20 pages or so, but please don't compare the V-Machine to a PC, I know we all do (also I do) because that is what we know but the way it works, it needs allot less grunt to do what it does.

I just don't see how that is possible (as I said at another point in this thread). A 1ghz CPU is a 1ghz CPU - multiple tasking and processing power are not the same thing. I can see how having less demands on it (by not having to run Windows) will mean it has more resources to devote to the task of running VSTs but it will not make it any more powerful in terms of processing power (ie "grunt").

I will try to explain, if a CPU needs to do less...
Like Not display things on a big graphics screen
not worry about mouse, kb input, network etc
Then you are dedicating a much larger part of it to doing the DSP for the plugin

We have 2 processors on the V-Machine, the second is dedicated to doing all the other tasks. MIDI, USB, Screen, Buttons.

Hope this helps you understand.

Yes I think my post made it clear that I understood it has more resources to devote to tasks. What it does not have though is increased processing power. The two things are not identical. If I give a man with an IQ of 100 half as many things to do as he had to do before he's not going to get more intelligent - just have more time and attention to devote to those things.

[AzureCrystal]

a CPU upgrade (preferably to dualcore) is not wanted, it's NEEDED in today's time.

+1

Please, please, please...

I'm definitely buying more ram and I am willing to pay $ for the cpu upgrade, if it is at all possible to upgrade, those mini motherboards are very tied to the chip, IMHO would be an issue, but maybe I am wrong, I hope !!

[VFXAU]

I will try to explain, if a CPU needs to do less...
Like Not display things on a big graphics screen
not worry about mouse, kb input, network etc
Then you are dedicating a much larger part of it to doing the DSP for the plugin

We have 2 processors on the V-Machine, the second is dedicated to doing all the other tasks. MIDI, USB, Screen, Buttons.

Hope this helps you understand.

Yes I think my post made it clear that I understood it has more resources to devote to tasks. What it does not have though is increased processing power. The two things are not identical. If I give a man with an IQ of 100 half as many things to do as he had to do before he's not going to get more intelligent - just have more time and attention to devote to those things.

I don't think you can look at it this way, in this analogy you would say if you had 2 men with an iq which is matched, and give one person twice as much to do as the other, then the one which has less to do would do it faster (in theory). But in reality this is not the point, I agree more would be nice.

[kiminet]

Do you think that the V-Machine is sufficient to running B4 and a Rhodes's VST (like electrik piano, lounge lizard or Mr ray 73) ?

I play both B4 II and MrRay73 on my V-Machine and they are VERY smooth, very large poliphony and no clipping! I tried Lounge Lizard 3 as well and it runs perfectly too (but I use MrRay because I don't like Lounge Lizard's interface, and it takes too much time to load presets).
All three plug ins load very fast, in like 1,5 seconds!

Hope they will manage to simplify installation procedures, because the V-Machine is really an amazing product, and what it only needs is to be a bit more accessible!

Lounge Lizard ? Full version or demo?

[zbyszekwawa]

Hi ,

Can somebody help me wit B4 instalation on V-Nachine please.


Thank You

[EvilDragon]

All three plug ins load very fast, in like 1,5 seconds!

This is too slow for live use. If it were in 0.25-0.5 seconds range, that's way more acceptable.

[krakengore]

I'd rather think to another approach that would work with all VST plugins: you could load a plugin into memory, send it all the INIT messages - setSampleRate(), setBlockSize(), setProgram(), and resume() - but skip the startProcess() so the plugin is there and stays ready for running but won't run untill activated by a preset. This is the same thing as loading the plugin, wait for the full init and setting it in bypass.

That's exactly what i do in my host (Jost), where you can mute a plugin (simply zero volume of the plugin output) or bypass it, which means the plugin is running as the others (call to setSamplerate, setBlockSize, resume, suspend and all the other plugin initialization functon) but then no process/processReplacing function is called, and any audio / midi input is passing thru the next plugins in the chain.

easy and effective ! ... and you can save a lot of cpu cycles this way

[kiminet]

hi,

does anybody know something about
- AAS Tassman4 (FULL version, not DEMO) now?
- or Albino3? (FULL version, not DEMO)
- or NI synths?

I don't think it Tassman 4 will work since it needs challenge /response to register which is related to a specific machine.

[Nitrofunk]

Hi!
Today I got this Reply from Synthogy concerning Ivory and the V-Machine:

"Hi Peter.

I'm sorry, but Ivory will not run on a V-machine. First, the device may
not meet our minimum specifications. More importantly though, the
V-machine does not support iLok registration, which is required to
authorize Ivory 1.7.

Regards,"

I'm afraid that this was the final Nail for the V-Machines Coffin...

Peter

[EvilDragon]

I'm afraid that this was the final Nail for the V-Machines Coffin...

Don't nail anything down. If with the CPU upgrade V-Machine becomes able to run Pianoteq well, it's back on the horse for sure.