KVR Audio

ZioKiller · Post by **ZioKiller** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 11:04 am

schoko wrote: For studio purpose, it is definetly too loud in my opinion, because it has an annoying kind of "tone", if you know, what I mean. It is working constantly.
When I want to concentrate on mixing in the studio, I turn the v-machine off.

+1

mon8169 · Post by **mon8169** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:38 pm

I've been following all the posts here and finally buyed a V-Machine!!!

To visit this forum regularly is a little dificult, so I've also created a Yahoo Group to ask questions and share answers or tips.

You can find the group here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Vmachinesgroup

Feel free to join (specially you Danny)

Ramon

mäxchen · Post by **mäxchen** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:14 am

good idea ! i never used a yahoo group before but will try....

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:28 am

schoko wrote:
kiminet wrote: I don't think it Tassman 4 will work since it needs challenge /response to register which is related to a specific machine.
yes, I know, but it is not impossible as far as Danny told us before.

I was just wondering if there are any (good) news about the challenge/response stuff relating Tassman / NI and so on.

I never said TASSMAN will not work,
The Demo works, and even an original can work,
It is just that it is not easy for users to do this as yet, and it is just a firmware update, the way we do it is via VNC more to come...

some info comming out at NAMM as well which should make you all Happy.

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:29 am

AzureCrystal wrote:
DragonSagoth wrote:
Nitrofunk wrote:I'm afraid that this was the final Nail for the V-Machines Coffin...
Don't nail anything down. If with the CPU upgrade V-Machine becomes able to run Pianoteq well, it's back on the horse for sure.
Are you thinking they will offer a firmware upgrade that would allow the vmachine to support a new cpu chip that the "user" can then switch ? and if so, it sure would not be free ? Just curious, those little mini PCs are very single purpose, I would be surprised you could just plug in a different cpu chip....

Different CPU Boards.. possible...

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:32 am

JazzSinger wrote:
ZioKiller wrote:Consider that a VST plugins runs as a host's child process, so if the host takes advantage of the multi-core CPU, the plugin will do as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
The host provides a conduit through which the control and output of the plugin runs. The actual process of producing the sound is entirely the job of the VST plugin. To make use of multicore processors, it must be programmed to do so. It does not happen automatically because the host is multicore, and it cannot work independently without constantly synching with the host, and this has to be specifically programmed.

The programming world still hasn't found practical uses for multicore technology. Practically all programming tasks work on the principle of first you do A, then use that to do B, then use that to do C, etc.

If you have time, you might like to look up some sites where programmers are discussing multicore processor coding. Look at the examples. They are limited to things like printing in the background, or building up the screen image whilst the program itself gets on with something else (which is done by the CPU on the graphics card anyway).

You might also try, just with pen and paper. Sketch out the various parts of a VST synth, connected to tone or effect plugins. How would you use multicore capabilities whilst ensuring the bytes flow without losing any, or without having to fill gaps when one process finishes before another?

Benefical use of multicores works only on processes that are really and truly independent from each other, like, say, Google's internet search server farms.

ZioKiller wrote:That said, the V-Machine will enormously benefit from a dual core CPU since Wine should already support multi-core processors.
Wine can be thought of as a "host".

Generally, you will find software upgrades which say they are now multicore compatible. This usually simply means they don't crash on multicore processors, it does NOT mean they actually use the technology in any useful way.

I might just add that multicore technology has been around on the PC since Windows NT. NT supported motherboards with up to 16 individual CPUs, even back then. They never took off because nobody had a use for them. That hasn't changed.

In Actual fact we found some plugins such as YELLOW TOOLS INDEPENDENCE which can utilize Dual core, it would not work on the V-Machine with it switch on, but you can switch it off in the preferences section and then it works very very well on the V-Machine. Actually one of my favorites. (independence free)

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:33 am

ZioKiller wrote:
schoko wrote: For studio purpose, it is definetly too loud in my opinion, because it has an annoying kind of "tone", if you know, what I mean. It is working constantly.
When I want to concentrate on mixing in the studio, I turn the v-machine off.
+1

Yes... I know... hehe... I may offer you something for this in the next few weeks..

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:40 am

ZioKiller wrote:Consider that a VST plugins runs as a host's child process, so if the host takes advantage of the multi-core CPU, the plugin will do as well.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

That said, the V-Machine will enormously benefit from a dual core CPU since Wine should already support multi-core processors.

Hi I also think not, the VST must support dual core, it does not matter if the host supports it and as far as I know %99 don't.

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:42 am

AzureCrystal wrote:
ZioKiller wrote:
DragonSagoth wrote:a CPU upgrade (preferably to dualcore) is not wanted, it's NEEDED in today's time.
+1

Please, please, please...
I'm definitely buying more ram and I am willing to pay $ for the cpu upgrade, if it is at all possible to upgrade, those mini motherboards are very tied to the chip, IMHO would be an issue, but maybe I am wrong, I hope !!

What you be willing to pay? $200 $150 $100 for double the power?

VSTinus · Post by **VSTinus** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:06 am

some info comming out at NAMM as well which should make you all Happy.

A running copy of the VFX-software on my computer would make me happy. Still no solution whatsoever and i don't think it will be solved in the near future either.

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:16 am

VSTinus wrote:
some info comming out at NAMM as well which should make you all Happy.
A running copy of the VFX-software on my computer would make me happy. Still no solution whatsoever and i don't think it will be solved in the near future either.

This I hate to hear... I was told that certain PC's in Europe running windows with another language had an issue. I can guarranty (and I don't do this often!) that is will be sorted out ASAP. I will sit on thier head until it is done.. what language is your PC in?

VSTinus · Post by **VSTinus** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:20 am

XP sp3 language: Dutch. I already know about the language issue in Germany. I hope it will be fixed very soon. Bought the V-machine begin december last year, and it's so frustating not to be able to use the software. I have a gig tonight, i really wanted to show off with the v-machine.

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:25 am

VSTinus wrote:XP sp3 language: Dutch. I already know about the language issue in Germany. I hope it will be fixed very soon. Bought the V-machine begin december last year, and it's so frustating not to be able to use the software. I have a gig tonight, i really wanted to show off with the v-machine.

ok

1. Are you running 1219 on your V-Machine as yet?
If not you can download an IMAGE and put it in the V-Machine without the use of the sfotware (just use a stick)

Second thing. You could put some plugs on a stick (just create a Plugs directory and then each directory for each plug inside it) similar to the plugs directory on your PC at the moment. No need for Banks...

Let me know if you need a link to download 1219 into a stick, I will help you where I can.

kiminet · Post by **kiminet** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:31 am

VFXAU wrote:
VSTinus wrote:
some info comming out at NAMM as well which should make you all Happy.
A running copy of the VFX-software on my computer would make me happy. Still no solution whatsoever and i don't think it will be solved in the near future either.
This I hate to hear... I was told that certain PC's in Europe running windows with another language had an issue. I can guarranty (and I don't do this often!) that is will be sorted out ASAP. I will sit on thier head until it is done.. what language is your PC in?

I also have problems running VXF on a labtop with 1,7 Hgz AMD.It crashes before it opens.
Kim

VFXAU · Post by **VFXAU** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:48 am

VSTinus wrote:XP sp3 language: Dutch. I already know about the language issue in Germany. I hope it will be fixed very soon. Bought the V-machine begin december last year, and it's so frustating not to be able to use the software. I have a gig tonight, i really wanted to show off with the v-machine.

BTW have you tried by any change to change the language in Windows to English
The issue for me as a support person is that Microsoft tells me that thier should be no difference running in English or any other language..

But obviously it is not the case.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/libr ... 57045.aspx

In worst case situation, you could run in Virtual Machine (free download) an english win XP but still I much rather get it running on your current machine.

Please do change the language and try. The only thing I can think of is different path names.