KVR Audio

pattonfreak1 · Post by **pattonfreak1** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:55 am

shanecgriffo wrote:
pattonfreak1 wrote:AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and EpicVerb is doing fine
thanks again bootsy!
were you having any problems previously with it? did bootsie send you a new version to try? I'm on AMD to but its an older one and having problems.

Never had probs with it except an obscene amount of crackle in the right channel early on the beta testing which was quickly rectified. I'm using rc1 and 1.0.
I've had this pc since '07.

geroyannis · Post by **geroyannis** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:09 am

The problem exists on the older Athlon XP processors.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:10 am

pattonfreak1 wrote:
shanecgriffo wrote:
pattonfreak1 wrote:AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and EpicVerb is doing fine
thanks again bootsy!
were you having any problems previously with it? did bootsie send you a new version to try? I'm on AMD to but its an older one and having problems.
Never had probs with it except an obscene amount of crackle in the right channel early on the beta testing which was quickly rectified. I'm using rc1 and 1.0.
I've had this pc since '07.

i've had mine a couple of years more than that i'm afraid..
after i finish this next project its time for a new one for sure!

Integratron · Post by **Integratron** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:11 am

This is indeed a very fine reverb! Thank you for the heads up.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:11 am

geroyannis wrote:The problem exists on the older Athlon XP processors.

yeah, like mine!

MaliceX · Post by **MaliceX** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:21 am

shanecgriffo wrote:
geroyannis wrote:The problem exists on the older Athlon XP processors.
yeah, like mine!

Sempron counts too, since it's SSE1.

Mudcat007 · Post by **Mudcat007** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:46 pm

I also have an older AMD processor.

Bootsie - Do you plan to address the AMD issue or am I out of luck until I get a newer box?

bootsie · Post by **bootsie** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:20 pm

Mudcat007 wrote:I also have an older AMD processor.

Bootsie - Do you plan to address the AMD issue or am I out of luck until I get a newer box?

I've already coded an additional SSE1 version which is currently in testing. First results looks promising. Of course it's a little bit more CPU intense since some tricky SSE2 assembler hacking is missing ...

Mudcat007 · Post by **Mudcat007** » Wed Jan 14, 2009 3:22 pm

Great news! Your efforts are appreciated!

MaliceX · Post by **MaliceX** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:12 am

TripACT · Post by **TripACT** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:04 am

bootsie,

looking forward for the modulation issue fix. I also noticed the noise thingy when modulation is used. Glad you fixed it.
excellent reverb unit! can really comapre it to many hardware commercial ones.
With the modulation fix that revebr wlil even get much better.

Any change to release now an updated version with that fix?

bootsie · Post by **bootsie** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:56 pm

Of course we need to re-test the whole thing with all the fixes. I think the bugfix release will be out to the end of the month.

skank · Post by **skank** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:41 pm

Mudcat007 wrote:Great news! Your efforts are appreciated!

+1

Dandruff · Post by **Dandruff** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:00 am

Hello Bootsie,

I found two problems in with epicVerb in Reaper:

-> load the project into Reaper
-> now remove the first instance of epicVerb
-> all fine
-> now remove the second instance of epicVerb

=> first problem = Crash:

Code: Select all

Microsoft (R) DrWtsn32
Copyright (C) 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. Alle Rechte vorbehalten.



Anwendungsausnahme aufgetreten:
        Anwendung: C:\Programme\Reaper\reaper.exe (pid=1992)
        Wann: 20.01.2009 @ 00:49:03.578
        Ausnahmenummer: c0000005 (Zugriffsverletzung)

*----> Systeminformationen <----*
        Terminalsitzungskennung: 0
        Prozessoranzahl: 2
        Prozessortyp: x86 Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 6
        Windows-Version: 5.1
        Aktuelles Build: 2600
        Service Pack: 3
        Aktueller Typ: Multiprocessor Free

*----> Taskliste <----*
   0 System Process
   4 System
 316 smss.exe
 376 csrss.exe
 400 winlogon.exe
 444 services.exe
 456 lsass.exe
 632 svchost.exe
 680 svchost.exe
 732 svchost.exe
 772 spoolsv.exe
1296 Explorer.EXE
1380 hdsp32.exe
1408 hdspmix.exe
 420 svchost.exe
1964 firefox.exe
1096 totalcmd.exe
1664 digicheck.exe
1092 LingoPad.exe
1992 reaper.exe
1628 drwtsn32.exe

*----> Modulliste <----*
(0000000000400000 - 0000000000863000: C:\Programme\Reaper\reaper.exe
(0000000000f10000 - 0000000000f17000: C:\Programme\Reaper\Plugins\soundtouch.dll
(0000000001180000 - 00000000011a2000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_ape.dll
(00000000011b0000 - 00000000011c6000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_csurf.dll
(00000000011d0000 - 00000000011dc000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_explorer.dll
(00000000012f0000 - 0000000001309000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_rex.dll
(0000000001720000 - 000000000174b000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_flac.dll
(0000000001750000 - 0000000001795000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_midi.dll
(00000000017a0000 - 00000000017ea000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_mp3dec.dll
(00000000017f0000 - 0000000001920000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_ogg.dll
(0000000001930000 - 0000000001949000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_video.dll
(0000000001970000 - 0000000001987000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_wave.dll
(0000000001990000 - 00000000019d0000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\reaper_wavpack.dll
(0000000001b30000 - 0000000001e09000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\xpsp2res.dll
(00000000024a0000 - 00000000024aa000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hdspasio.dll
(00000000031c0000 - 00000000031c8000: C:\Programme\Reaper\plugins\fx\reasynth.dll
(00000000031d0000 - 000000000365b000: C:\Programme\VSTPlugins\Bootsy\epicVerb.dll
(0000000004060000 - 0000000004161000: C:\Programme\VSTPlugins\Luxonix\LFX-1310.dll
(0000000010000000 - 000000001006c000: C:\Programme\Reaper\Plugins\elastique2.dll
(0000000010930000 - 0000000010979000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PortableDeviceApi.dll
(000000001f840000 - 000000001f859000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\odbcint.dll
(000000004eba0000 - 000000004ed46000: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.GdiPlus_6595b64144ccf1df_1.0.2600.5581_x-ww_dfbc4fc4\gdiplus.dll
(00000000597d0000 - 0000000059825000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NETAPI32.dll
(000000005b0f0000 - 000000005b128000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\UxTheme.dll
(000000005eb20000 - 000000005eb2d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\perfproc.dll
(0000000071a00000 - 0000000071a08000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
(0000000071a10000 - 0000000071a27000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
(0000000071a30000 - 0000000071a3a000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
(0000000071a80000 - 0000000071a92000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MPR.dll
(0000000071ef0000 - 0000000071ef8000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\snmpapi.dll
(0000000072c80000 - 0000000072c88000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
(0000000072c90000 - 0000000072c99000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
(0000000072f70000 - 0000000072f96000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
(0000000073b10000 - 0000000073b24000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\sti.dll
(0000000073b30000 - 0000000073b36000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\dciman32.dll
(0000000073e70000 - 0000000073ecc000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.dll
(00000000745d0000 - 000000007460d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ODBC32.dll
(0000000074a60000 - 0000000074a67000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CFGMGR32.dll
(0000000074cb0000 - 0000000074cd3000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\oledlg.dll
(0000000075f00000 - 0000000075f07000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\drprov.dll
(0000000075f10000 - 0000000075f1a000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\davclnt.dll
(0000000075f20000 - 000000007601d000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\browseui.dll
(0000000076320000 - 0000000076325000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msimg32.dll
(0000000076350000 - 000000007639a000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll
(00000000765a0000 - 00000000765bd000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\CSCDLL.dll
(0000000076af0000 - 0000000076b1e000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
(0000000076bf0000 - 0000000076c1e000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
(0000000076c50000 - 0000000076c78000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
(0000000076f90000 - 000000007700f000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL
(0000000077010000 - 00000000770e3000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll
(00000000770f0000 - 000000007717b000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
(00000000773a0000 - 00000000774a3000: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.5512_x-ww_35d4ce83\COMCTL32.dll
(00000000774b0000 - 00000000775ed000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
(00000000778f0000 - 00000000779e4000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.dll
(00000000779f0000 - 0000000077a46000: C:\WINDOWS\System32\cscui.dll
(0000000077a50000 - 0000000077ae6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
(0000000077af0000 - 0000000077b02000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
(0000000077b10000 - 0000000077b32000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\appHelp.dll
(0000000077ba0000 - 0000000077ba7000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
(0000000077bb0000 - 0000000077bc5000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
(0000000077bd0000 - 0000000077bd8000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
(0000000077be0000 - 0000000077c38000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
(0000000077da0000 - 0000000077e4a000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
(0000000077e50000 - 0000000077ee2000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
(0000000077ef0000 - 0000000077f39000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
(0000000077f40000 - 0000000077fb6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
(0000000077fc0000 - 0000000077fd1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll
(000000007c800000 - 000000007c908000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
(000000007c910000 - 000000007c9c6000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
(000000007e360000 - 000000007e3f1000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
(000000007e670000 - 000000007ee91000: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll

*----> Statusabbild für Threadkennung 0x638 <----*

eax=06a09fe8 ebx=00000000 ecx=7c802600 edx=7c91e4f4 esi=062b7d88 edi=01f92bd0
eip=033e9bc9 esp=0012c5f4 ebp=01f91eec iopl=0         nv up ei pl nz na po nc
cs=001b  ss=0023  ds=0023  es=0023  fs=003b  gs=0000             efl=00000206

*** WARNING: Unable to verify checksum for C:\Programme\VSTPlugins\Bootsy\epicVerb.dll
*** ERROR: Symbol file could not be found.  Defaulted to export symbols for C:\Programme\VSTPlugins\Bootsy\epicVerb.dll - 
Funktion: epicVerb
        033e9bad 44               inc     esp
        033e9bae 2420             and     al,0x20
        033e9bb0 1800             sbb     [eax],al
        033e9bb2 0000             add     [eax],al
        033e9bb4 7405             jz      epicVerb+0x219bbb (033e9bbb)
        033e9bb6 e875f8e1ff       call    epicVerb+0x39430 (03209430)
        033e9bbb 8b8630010000     mov     eax,[esi+0x130]
        033e9bc1 3bc3             cmp     eax,ebx
        033e9bc3 885c2413         mov     [esp+0x13],bl
        033e9bc7 740b             jz      epicVerb+0x219bd4 (033e9bd4)
FEHLER ->033e9bc9 8a4848           mov     cl,[eax+0x48]           ds:0023:06a0a030=??
        033e9bcc 884c2413         mov     [esp+0x13],cl
        033e9bd0 c6404801         mov     byte ptr [eax+0x48],0x1
        033e9bd4 8dbe4c010000     lea     edi,[esi+0x14c]
        033e9bda 8bcf             mov     ecx,edi
        033e9bdc e8df9e0200       call    epicVerb+0x243ac0 (03413ac0)
        033e9be1 8b8630010000     mov     eax,[esi+0x130]
        033e9be7 3bc3             cmp     eax,ebx
        033e9be9 7407             jz      epicVerb+0x219bf2 (033e9bf2)
        033e9beb 8a542413         mov     dl,[esp+0x13]
        033e9bef 885048           mov     [eax+0x48],dl

*----> Stack Back Trace <----*
WARNING: Stack unwind information not available. Following frames may be wrong.
ChildEBP RetAddr  Args to Child              
01f91eec 00001000 00000fa0 00000000 00000000 epicVerb+0x219bc9

*----> Raw Stack Dump <----*
000000000012c5f4  a1 89 30 ca d0 2b f9 01 - 88 7d 2b 06 00 00 00 00  ..0..+...}+.....
000000000012c604  3d 00 92 00 88 7d 2b 06 - 34 c6 12 00 45 22 47 03  =....}+.4...E"G.
000000000012c614  18 00 00 00 18 a2 3e 03 - a0 23 28 09 ca 4a 1d 03  ......>..#(..J..
000000000012c624  01 00 00 00 75 8a 30 ca - a0 23 28 09 a0 23 28 09  ....u.0..#(..#(.
000000000012c634  64 c6 12 00 68 43 45 03 - 00 00 00 00 a8 4d 1d 03  d...hCE......M..
000000000012c644  a8 24 b7 03 55 12 1d 03 - 01 00 00 00 13 70 1d 03  .$..U........p..
000000000012c654  01 8a 30 ca a8 24 b7 03 - d0 2b f9 01 a8 24 b7 03  ..0..$...+...$..
000000000012c664  58 ec 12 00 c4 45 45 03 - ff ff ff ff 18 74 1d 03  X....EE......t..
000000000012c674  a8 24 b7 03 3d 10 1d 03 - 01 00 00 00 04 1f f9 01  .$..=...........
000000000012c684  a7 47 65 00 c8 24 b7 03 - 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  .Ge..$..........
000000000012c694  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000000012c6a4  00 00 00 00 ec 1e f9 01 - 04 1f f9 01 c0 24 f9 01  .............$..
000000000012c6b4  fe 06 52 00 c0 24 f9 01 - bc b0 52 00 01 00 00 00  ..R..$....R.....
000000000012c6c4  04 1f f9 01 c0 24 f9 01 - ec 1e f9 01 04 1f f9 01  .....$..........
000000000012c6d4  c0 24 f9 01 86 cb 52 00 - d8 1e f9 01 3b 1c 53 00  .$....R.....;.S.
000000000012c6e4  01 00 00 00 80 62 f9 01 - 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  .....b..........
000000000012c6f4  00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 d0 02 15 00  ................
000000000012c704  ec f8 52 00 00 00 00 00 - 1c 01 00 00 99 01 00 00  ..R.............
000000000012c714  9b 00 00 00 a4 01 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  ................
000000000012c724  10 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ae 28 84 3f 00 00 00 00  .........(.?....

*----> Symboltabelle <----*
C:\Programme\VSTPlugins\Bootsy\epicVerb.dll

031d46d0  epicVerb!main

The crash is 100% reproducable here. I'm running a Intel Core 2 Duo processor.

FIXED

Second problem:

-> load the project again
-> file -> render -> render

=> once render is finished you hear this:
render-burst.wav (154.9 kB)

This shouldn't happen. There should be silence. When using Reaper's ReaVerb, there's no such sound after render is finished.

What's wrong with epicVerb?

shogger · Post by **shogger** » Tue Jan 20, 2009 12:18 am

Dandruff wrote:Hello Bootsie,

I found two problems in with epicVerb in Reaper:

You need this project to reproduce both problems: http://www.outburst-audio.com/maik/render-burst.rpp (12.3 kB)

-> load the project into Reaper
-> now remove the first instance of epicVerb
-> all fine
-> now remove the second instance of epicVerb

=> first problem = Crash:

Same here.

Dandruff wrote:Second problem:

-> load the project again
-> file -> render -> render

=> once render is finished you hear this: http://www.outburst-audio.com/maik/render-burst.wav (154.9 kB)

This shouldn't happen. There should be silence. When using Reaper's ReaVerb, there's no such sound after render is finished.

What's wrong with epicVerb?

I don't get any burst here nor do I hear one in your wave file!?

Shogger

epicVerb 1.5 released