Twin 2... Released Today!!!
- KVRAF
- 37445 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I think that looks to be one of the best and most modern synth interfaces I've seen. A pity though it's let down by an ergonomic annoyance for me - why on earth do you need to use a keyboard shortcut (ctrl drag) to access some filter settings? If, like me, you tend to play the filter (with mouse or controller) while also playing the keyboard that would leave you with no hands!! (unless you have 3
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- KVRAF
- 19860 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
You might want to try the Twin 2 interface before drawing any conclusions.elxicano wrote:Yeah, but Tomg is on a mission, so that falls on deaf years.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRist
- 239 posts since 13 Oct, 2001 from montreal
If you look closely, you notice that there's a hidden pane for each section that provides full control over the parameters; the ctrl drag is only a shortcut to access those settings without opening the pane.aMUSEd wrote:I think that looks to be one of the best and most modern synth interfaces I've seen. A pity though it's let down by an ergonomic annoyance for me - why on earth do you need to use a keyboard shortcut (ctrl drag) to access some filter settings? If, like me, you tend to play the filter (with mouse or controller) while also playing the keyboard that would leave you with no hands!! (unless you have 3)
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- KVRian
- 623 posts since 9 May, 2003 from Tumwater, WA
As the previous version has it, I doubt they would remove it.John-E34 wrote:Did anyone notice a unison mode for the oscillators? - I tried pausing the high res' video, but could not find anything.
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- KVRian
- 980 posts since 25 Feb, 2003
Since Twin (V.1) offers unison of up to 32 voices, and since Twin2 obviously will be able to load Twin (V.1) patches, there most certainly will be a unison mode.John-E34 wrote:Did anyone notice a unison mode for the oscillators?
- KVRAF
- 37445 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Oh good that they have more than one way of doing it. I wish all devs took this on board when it comes to keyboard shortcuts for musical instruments or hosts.mateo wrote:If you look closely, you notice that there's a hidden pane for each section that provides full control over the parameters; the ctrl drag is only a shortcut to access those settings without opening the pane.aMUSEd wrote:I think that looks to be one of the best and most modern synth interfaces I've seen. A pity though it's let down by an ergonomic annoyance for me - why on earth do you need to use a keyboard shortcut (ctrl drag) to access some filter settings? If, like me, you tend to play the filter (with mouse or controller) while also playing the keyboard that would leave you with no hands!! (unless you have 3)
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11330 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Did you read the whole conversation, or just pull this one up for kicks?Teksonik wrote:You might want to try the Twin 2 interface before drawing any conclusions.elxicano wrote:Yeah, but Tomg is on a mission, so that falls on deaf years.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11330 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
aMUSED,aMUSEd wrote:I think that looks to be one of the best and most modern synth interfaces I've seen. A pity though it's let down by an ergonomic annoyance for me - why on earth do you need to use a keyboard shortcut (ctrl drag) to access some filter settings? If, like me, you tend to play the filter (with mouse or controller) while also playing the keyboard that would leave you with no hands!! (unless you have 3)
I've watched the video several times and am still not certain about this, but it looks like just one click on the filter and it will then expand and allow manipulation of all the settings.
Maybe bManic can confirm, or maybe there's another tester/sound designer that can confirm here? I just figured it would be a lot like Pro-C with the "expert" option, or at least you can say I'm hoping its like Pro-C.
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- KVRian
- 889 posts since 10 Jul, 2004
the GUI is stunning,innovative and looks like fun to use....
waiting for the demo and to read the complete specs (does it have FM?)..
waiting for the demo and to read the complete specs (does it have FM?)..
- KVRAF
- 19860 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
No I read most of itelxicano wrote:Did you read the whole conversation, or just pull this one up for kicks?Teksonik wrote:You might want to try the Twin 2 interface before drawing any conclusions.elxicano wrote:Yeah, but Tomg is on a mission, so that falls on deaf years.
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRian
- 1184 posts since 13 May, 2004 from SF Bay Area, California
Just to clarify, unison in Twin is achieved by stacking whole voices; it's not contained inside the oscillator stage. So I assume it will be the same in Twin 2. (Lots of synths work this way -- Massive, FM8, and VirSyn TERA come to mind.)meister eder wrote:Since Twin (V.1) offers unison of up to 32 voices, and since Twin2 obviously will be able to load Twin (V.1) patches, there most certainly will be a unison mode.John-E34 wrote:Did anyone notice a unison mode for the oscillators?
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- KVRAF
- 7879 posts since 16 Apr, 2003 from -on the outside looking in
Yes. It's the same unison and clicking on the thumbnail windows opens a graphic editing panel that is very easy to use. It is all very fluid in practice.
..what goes around comes around..
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- KVRian
- 1184 posts since 13 May, 2004 from SF Bay Area, California
Apropos upgrade pricing, here's some info from Floris at the FF forum:
Seems very fair!The normal price for Twin 2 will be 129 Euros. But of course, FabFilter customers will be able to purchase an upgrade or crossgrade to FabFilter Twin 2 via their account ( www.fabfilter.com/myaccount ).
The discount for upgrading from Twin 1 to Twin 2 will range between 50% and 65%, depending on which other FabFilter plug-ins you already own.
If you don't own Twin 1, but do own one or more other Fabfilter plugs, you can crossgrade to Twin 2. Here also, the discount depends on the FabFilter plug-ins you already own. For example, when you have the FX Pro bundle, you can crossgrade with a 31% discount.
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- KVRian
- 663 posts since 28 Feb, 2003 from out
I guess I'll get it, having three of their plugs already. Question is do I need it? I already have Reaktor and Absynth.
