The Fight for FM

[nuffink]

I'm at the point now where I've got to say that when the software guy doesn't hear the difference despite all the examples and also shows complete unwillingness to accept the possibility of an actual phenomenom, it's time to change the developer. So I'm not going any further in this thread, because it doesn't lead anywhere.

Don't stop with the thread, leave the forum. You're not happy with its basic reason for it existing and you keep making a twat of yourself.

[herodotus]

This thread is awesome.

[vurt]

i r troll?

[TristezaOrange]

This thread is awesome.

But there's one that's going to get even better:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3457801

[tony tony chopper]

I would listen to a broad range of presets for a synth and if I would hear certain characteristics across the range of presets, I would consider that to be something rather intrinsic to the synth.

And you would be very wrong. The presets will tell more about the one(s) who made them than the synth. Unless of course the synth is very limited in its design - if it's 1 single saw oscillator with a lowpass, all presets will indeed sound the same & will show the synth's limits.
But Sytrus, FM7, Rhino & others offer you so many possibilities, different preset designers will reflect their style in their presets.

[ew]

This thread is awesome.

Indeed it is



You want some popcorn, John?

ew

[whyterabbyt]

I can only marvel of the close-mindedness of some people that claim to be 'scientific'.

would you like the last word of that sentence properly explained to you?

[pdxindy]

I would listen to a broad range of presets for a synth and if I would hear certain characteristics across the range of presets, I would consider that to be something rather intrinsic to the synth.

And you would be very wrong. The presets will tell more about the one(s) who made them than the synth. Unless of course the synth is very limited in its design - if it's 1 single saw oscillator with a lowpass, all presets will indeed sound the same & will show the synth's limits.
But Sytrus, FM7, Rhino & others offer you so many possibilities, different preset designers will reflect their style in their presets.

You might be right... However, if all the pro sound designers end up in a certain place, I do not feel confident to put time into this based on the idea that I am somehow going to take the synth some place rather different. So in practice, my assertion becomes so...

[living sounds]

And you would be very wrong. The presets will tell more about the one(s) who made them than the synth. Unless of course the synth is very limited in its design - if it's 1 single saw oscillator with a lowpass, all presets will indeed sound the same & will show the synth's limits.
But Sytrus, FM7, Rhino & others offer you so many possibilities, different preset designers will reflect their style in their presets.

You present your opinion as fact here. And you're wrong, there is such a thing as a basic sound, owing to the nature of the engine that generates the sound.

[robenestobenz]

I'm at the point now where I've got to say that when the software guy doesn't hear the difference despite all the examples and also shows complete unwillingness to accept the possibility of an actual phenomenom, it's time to change the developer. So I'm not going any further in this thread, because it doesn't lead anywhere.

Don't stop with the thread, leave the forum. You're not happy with its basic reason for it existing and you keep making a twat of yourself.

Yeah, KVR. It's unpleasant accross the board.

[whyterabbyt]

You present your opinion as fact here. And you're wrong

dont you mean that its your opinion that he's wrong?

[bluedad]

ok, this thread isn't go anywhere, so stick a fork in it -
it's done.