Follower or Leader?
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- KVRian
- 698 posts since 21 Jan, 2009 from Every damn place
Every day I'm here I see a truck load of people clamoring to figure out how to sound like this that or the other band. So what I want to know is are you a leader trying to find your own sound by experimentation, trial and error, imagination and good old creativity or are you a follower who cant stand the fact you suck and the only thing you can figure is that to be good is to sound exactly like your idols or who ever is the flava of the month.
I know that at times my tracks can have an essence of something that's been done before. And many of you have that element as well. But there is an extreme difference between sounding like another artist/band when you are attempting to be unique and creative. When attempting to create a certain style/genre of music its understood that your influences will show at times in your music as well. But there are multitudes of bands in the same genre that don't sound the same as well.
But I'm talking of complete emulation here. Because I'm getting sick of the "How to sound like "X" Threads!
I know that at times my tracks can have an essence of something that's been done before. And many of you have that element as well. But there is an extreme difference between sounding like another artist/band when you are attempting to be unique and creative. When attempting to create a certain style/genre of music its understood that your influences will show at times in your music as well. But there are multitudes of bands in the same genre that don't sound the same as well.
But I'm talking of complete emulation here. Because I'm getting sick of the "How to sound like "X" Threads!
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll
If you're sick of "How do I sound like..." threads the best thing to do is not to read them. Problem solved. Easy, yes?
If you're sick of "How do I sound like..." threads the best thing to do is not to read them. Problem solved. Easy, yes?
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- Banned
- 3299 posts since 20 Dec, 2008
serve wrote:I'm getting sick of the "How to sound like "X" Threads!
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 698 posts since 21 Jan, 2009 from Every damn place
@Meffy
I guess its always been that way has it not? Its just now we have the ears or should I say eyes of those in the know to give us the low down on how to get this or that sound.
I guess I've always been on the curb when it comes to the flava of the month style. In high school I would wait until a fasion trend was over and then pick up that obsolete trend just to make people confused. Shorts in the winter, coats and pants in da summer kinda thing.
True! and everyone has there option to emulate or be emulated. I just find it kinda sad that I see more threads from people dying to be the the next big thing while trying to sound like the current big thing........http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll
If you're sick of "How do I sound like..." threads the best thing to do is not to read them. Problem solved. Easy, yes?
I guess its always been that way has it not? Its just now we have the ears or should I say eyes of those in the know to give us the low down on how to get this or that sound.
I guess I've always been on the curb when it comes to the flava of the month style. In high school I would wait until a fasion trend was over and then pick up that obsolete trend just to make people confused. Shorts in the winter, coats and pants in da summer kinda thing.
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
@serve: It's going to happen no matter what, tiresome though it may be (and it is, no argument there). People starting out often get into music because they want to make more songs like their favorite artists. I'd rather that more of them would try to emulate different artists, not so many fixating on the same ones, but mass media being what they are we're going to get a lot of people who all like this month's phenomenon.
Here's the thing: KVR is big. I mean, you think it's a long way to the chemist's but I mean REALLY big. It's got old-timers who know every trick and have seen it all. It's got clueless newcomers who desperately want to get in the door, some honestly trying to learn and others who bring an attitude that's sure to defeat them. And it's got a few clueless old-timers like me.
The point is that there are going to be all kinds of questions from all kinds of querents. A little like an old-fashioned one-room schoolhouse, with children of all ages mixed together, only broken up not by age but by subject area. And bigger. Really bigger. The only way to navigate this is by browsing threads' subject lines, picking and choosing which are worth reading and joining.
Same old same old? Ignore. New, interesting? Click.
The alternative is to petition Ben to add a new link to each thread: "Click here to not read this thread."
Here's the thing: KVR is big. I mean, you think it's a long way to the chemist's but I mean REALLY big. It's got old-timers who know every trick and have seen it all. It's got clueless newcomers who desperately want to get in the door, some honestly trying to learn and others who bring an attitude that's sure to defeat them. And it's got a few clueless old-timers like me.
The point is that there are going to be all kinds of questions from all kinds of querents. A little like an old-fashioned one-room schoolhouse, with children of all ages mixed together, only broken up not by age but by subject area. And bigger. Really bigger. The only way to navigate this is by browsing threads' subject lines, picking and choosing which are worth reading and joining.
Same old same old? Ignore. New, interesting? Click.
The alternative is to petition Ben to add a new link to each thread: "Click here to not read this thread."
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 698 posts since 21 Jan, 2009 from Every damn place
Yeah, Yeah I know.......But I really couldn't help but post this. I guess its just a sad fact that many would be talented artists burn out trying to sound like who ever while they never even new that right around the corner was there own style bending genere waiting to be split into sound waves.The alternative is to petition Ben to add a new link to each thread: "Click here to not read this thread."
PS. Any one know how to get that Stevie Wonder head wiggle style down. Just can't seem to manage it without Serous neck pain in the morning.....
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- Skunk Mod
- 21249 posts since 10 Jun, 2004 from Pony Pasture
The skills they learn trying to copy can become the foundation for later learning to branch out on their own. Same goes for visual and performing artists too. A few are brilliant enough to dive straight in without first imitating. A few just won't make it, for whatever reason. The majority seem IME to do best taking things a step at a time.
Now, if after years they're still doing nothing but copying, especially without learning for themselves HOW to copy, they aren't growing either as artists or as musical technicians. But once they've moved beyond simple imitation, there's no harm in enjoying a bit of audio mimesis as well.
Now, if after years they're still doing nothing but copying, especially without learning for themselves HOW to copy, they aren't growing either as artists or as musical technicians. But once they've moved beyond simple imitation, there's no harm in enjoying a bit of audio mimesis as well.
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- Banned
- 12367 posts since 30 Apr, 2002 from i might peeramid
MuSiC iS SYMBoLs oV uR WuRLD
"every damn place"
you go to "every pleasant place" and leave off the damning.
"every damn place"
you go to "every pleasant place" and leave off the damning.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.
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Voidoid Surrealist Voidoid Surrealist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=41079
- KVRAF
- 4048 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Places far less tedious than this blue trainwreck...
"A Leader who drives forward with oimagination and creativity with no care to the masses"
So, is that how Cock Sparrer came up with their songs?
So, is that how Cock Sparrer came up with their songs?
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Chuck E. Jesus Chuck E. Jesus https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=108246
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- 7301 posts since 23 May, 2006 from in between a cornfield and a river
dude, you are a walking punk rock encyclopedia...Voidoid Surrealist wrote:"A Leader who drives forward with oimagination and creativity with no care to the masses"
So, is that how Cock Sparrer came up with their songs?
- KVRAF
- 2975 posts since 18 Sep, 2006 from Rosehill Cemetery
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:dude, you are a walking punk rock encyclopedia...Voidoid Surrealist wrote:"A Leader who drives forward with oimagination and creativity with no care to the masses"
So, is that how Cock Sparrer came up with their songs?
"a confession without need of absolution, without need of redemption"
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Voidoid Surrealist Voidoid Surrealist https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=41079
- KVRAF
- 4048 posts since 18 Sep, 2004 from Places far less tedious than this blue trainwreck...
Actually, I first said "So, is that how Last Resort came up with their songs?" but I edited it when I realized even less people would know who I was talking about.Chuck E. Jesus wrote:dude, you are a walking punk rock encyclopedia...Voidoid Surrealist wrote:"A Leader who drives forward with oimagination and creativity with no care to the masses"

