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kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Wed Nov 05, 2008 1:48 am

Urs wrote:Fair enough.

I'll consider options, including oversampling, but it'll probably be a year until this can happen.

No worries. Thanks for entertaining the argument at least.

Honestly some means of loading wavetables without clobbering modulation routings is a higher priority for me.

adamszabo · Post by **adamszabo** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:08 pm

What spectrum software was use in the beggining of the thread?

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Mon Dec 01, 2008 5:22 pm

adamtrance wrote:What spectrum software was use in the beggining of the thread?

It's the spectrum plugin in Live 7.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:07 pm

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but would anybody check out the "renderer" options on the "more Osc" tabs of this otherwise top-secret build:

http://www.u-he.com/Zebra232MacInstall.zip
http://www.u-he.com/Zebra232Winstaller.zip

Can you hear/feel/see any difference?

Note: This is beta stuff. Don't get too excited or too disappointed just yet.

Cheers,

Urs

tetsuneko · Post by **tetsuneko** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:45 pm

great timing! I just finished backing up my patch libary =) gonna give this one a spin then..

Funny thing - I can't notice any change in the sound regardless of the renderer used. Tried A/B'ing with 3x saw oscs and still didn't notice anything tangible (?)

A-ha! If I drown the sound with heavy distortion (which sometimes makes microscopic subtleties more noticeable) I can certainly hear a difference in the sound

But without distortion I can't hear any changes

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:59 pm

I'm not convinced I'm hearing much of any difference. Maybe little stronger, bottom heavy on '1' and sort scooped a bit somewhere on '2', as opposed to '0'. It feels almost inaudible in the impulse-y bit of a new note, and near a figment of imagination after that. I tried to listen blindly while automating the parameter randomly on 1-bar intervals, guessing which was the last played . . . I was entirely unable to distinguish 0 and 2, fairly correct on 1, which might be dumb luck.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:04 pm

xh3rv wrote:I'm not convinced I'm hearing much of any difference.

Me neither. But as the topic comes up every now and then ("Synth XY sounds better/warmer/stronger than Zebra because Zebra's oscillators sound too dull") I thought I'd give it a spin and see how it pans out

tetsuneko · Post by **tetsuneko** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:11 pm

Urs wrote:
xh3rv wrote:I'm not convinced I'm hearing much of any difference.
Me neither. But as the topic comes up every now and then ("Synth XY sounds better/warmer/stronger than Zebra because Zebra's oscillators sound too dull") I thought I'd give it a spin and see how it pans out

Your time is better spent on getting Zebrify into public beta ;D Or then just take some time off, you know you deserve it!

I'll do a few more tests with distorting the signal and checking the differences anyway, just for fun.

Aww.. now I cannot hear any diffs even with distortion.. it was just the phases playing tricks with me... This can mean only one thing, I should be asleep already

pedrorf · Post by **pedrorf** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:18 pm

Couldn't hear any significant difference. But then again I only tried the renderers for 5 seconds or so, which was the time it took me to realize there was something else in there

xh3rv · Post by **xh3rv** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:33 pm

pedrorf wrote: there was something else in there

oh shi~

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:12 am

I can definitely hear and see a difference. There's much more constant energy at 10k and above and this really opens up the sound a bit, taking off that dullness which is exactly the characteristic that I and other people have complained about in Z2.

I hope you leave this feature in!

justin3am · Post by **justin3am** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:24 am

xh3rv wrote:
pedrorf wrote: there was something else in there

oh shi~

I think I'm about to divide by zero in my pants.

mn · Post by mn » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:43 am

justin3am wrote:I think I'm about to divide by zero in my pants.

ThomasN · Post by **ThomasN** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 1:57 am

Urs wrote:Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but would anybody check out the "renderer" options on the "more Osc" tabs of this otherwise top-secret build:

http://www.u-he.com/Zebra232MacInstall.zip
http://www.u-he.com/Zebra232Winstaller.zip

Can you hear/feel/see any difference?

Yes, and it sounds much better!

Out of interest, what's the difference between render mode 1 and 2?

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:31 am

kuniklo wrote:I can definitely hear and see a difference. There's much more constant energy at 10k and above and this really opens up the sound a bit, taking off that dullness which is exactly the characteristic that I and other people have complained about in Z2.

I hope you leave this feature in!

I also definitely hear a difference. The highs are fuller and there is a kinda sheen to the sound I like. On some presets it is subtle, and on others quite distinct.

I also hope it is left in cause it sounds better!!!

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