Garritan Steinway?

[mat123]

Hi folks,

I know you are busy in achieving compatibility for many plugins, but I have to specifically ask for Garritan's Steinway for various reasons:

- the current compatibility situation for piano libraries is a big problem: Currently I see only two possibilities for pianists, i.e. Akoustik piano or full kontakt+library. The former maybe not an option for everybody, since the extradry recordings do not fit everybodies playing style. And the latter is expensive and NOT stable (for a gig I need a stable solution!).

- to my eyes, Garritan's steinway is (together with Galaxy II) the best Steinway library on the market.

- regardless of which piano you prefer (Steinway, Boesendorfer, Bluethner...), only few other libraries (none of which are compatible with receptor) match Garritan's level of authenticy with respect to ambience and sympathetic string resonance.

- garritan's Steinway is the only library officially endorser by Steinway and Son's. While I do not care so much about branding, it indeed somewhat proves the quality of Garritan's library and it may be a major marketing issue for muse ("what, the official Steinway library is not receptor-compatible?")

so, you know what I am asking for...

-mat123

[JayVee]

Ivory works great on Receptor.

[richwhite9]

Kontakt 2 bought as a Komplete Receptor is stable. Many users reported running Sampletekk Grands with success.

From a previous post Ivory will allow users to downgrade to a non-iLock in case of Receptor.

The two modeling pianos (Pianotek and True Pianos are options).

It would be good to get an update from Muse on:

Ivory iLok for new and older Receptors. Ivory Uprights would be a big plus.

Kontakt Player based pianos like Art Vista for new and older Receptors.

New Sample Engines like Play and Garritan's and Spectrasonics for new Receptors.

A timeline or roadmap would be great.

[TWB121234]

There are some great pianos that currently run on Receptor, as stated by Richwhite9. Unfortunately, Muse has fallen behind on the current crop of software pianos. I'd second the timeline or roadmap request. There's alot of new pianos I'd like to have access to on my Receptor.

[Bryan@MuseResearch]

Hi folks,

I know you are busy in achieving compatibility for many plugins, but I have to specifically ask for Garritan's Steinway for various reasons:

- the current compatibility situation for piano libraries is a big problem: Currently I see only two possibilities for pianists, i.e. Akoustik piano or full kontakt+library. The former maybe not an option for everybody, since the extradry recordings do not fit everybodies playing style. And the latter is expensive and NOT stable (for a gig I need a stable solution!).

- to my eyes, Garritan's steinway is (together with Galaxy II) the best Steinway library on the market.

- regardless of which piano you prefer (Steinway, Boesendorfer, Bluethner...), only few other libraries (none of which are compatible with receptor) match Garritan's level of authenticy with respect to ambience and sympathetic string resonance.

- garritan's Steinway is the only library officially endorser by Steinway and Son's. While I do not care so much about branding, it indeed somewhat proves the quality of Garritan's library and it may be a major marketing issue for muse ("what, the official Steinway library is not receptor-compatible?")

so, you know what I am asking for...

-mat123

Hi gang

Having played the Steinway, I would have to agree that it is indeed an extremely impressive instrument. Of course, I love any great sounding piano, and it is great that there are so many alternatives out there. To me, each one I've heard has something unique about it that makes it special, and they all have something to contribute to each musical situation.

The issue with Steinway is that it is a based on the Garritan Aria engine, which is currently not compatible with Receptor. We tried installing it, and there were some immediate issues, and we weren't able to resolve them quickly so it was shelved for the time being.

We've had some discussions with Gary (as you all know, the Kompakt based GPO and JBB both worked wonderfully on Receptor) and although I wasn't in the latest conversation, there is willingness to make their stuff work on both sides.

However, we are currently knee deep in getting some key programs supported, including (but not limited to!) getting Omnisphere released, as well as getting all the Play Engine-based plugins working (Galaxy II among them)... so although you haven't heard a whole lot from us recently in terms of plugin support, we are definitely working towards some good news in the near future.

Since we're talking about pianos, I'd love to hear from you all as to what are your current favorites and why... always good for us to know what people are using and what makes it stand out for them...

Cheers

Groovology

[PhilMuller]

I just can't imagine any piano plugin being better than Ivory's Italian Grand (Fazioli) or their German D9 (Steinway) for that matter. I think Mike Garson uses the D9 exclusively for recordings. Brian Ahearn while playing a Faz308 at NAMM 2009 said to me, "It just doesn't get any better than this... incredible!" I have a really fine C7 in my home and Ivory's C7 sounds and plays absolutely identical to it. I have tried Pianoteq and while fun it is not remotely in the league with Ivory. I guess you can tell I am sold... enough talk... back to making music for me.

Now if you want to try something really spectacular, try Garritan's Stradavari... Unreal! Or maybe I should say, "Absolutely Real!" It is a wonderful experience to play... and I should have it down pat in about 2 years. Ha! Ha!

[PhilAiken]

My favorite piano for live use is Sampletekk's White Grand. After upgrading my Receptor I am able to play this in Kontakt II with Kornel's sympathetic resonace script at low latency and glitch free.
This works much better for me live than do any of the Ivory pianos, including the Italian Grand.

[TWB121234]

Of the current pianos that work on Receptor, I always go back to Ivory, mostly Italian Grand, but the Steinway is also good. I also have True Pianos, Pianoteq, Sampletek (Black Grand, The Small One, and 7Cs), and Acoustik Piano. I look forward to more options.

[ahutnick]

Having the Ivory upright pianos as well as the Italian grand working on Receptor would be great.

[afrokeys]

When i was talking to someone at muse about purchasing a receptor, I was told it would be two weeks until Ivory 1.7 and Upright Pianos were done. Well....That was over 2 months ago, and I havent heard a word. Maybe it wont ever happen?

[mat123]

When i was talking to someone at muse about purchasing a receptor, I was told it would be two weeks until Ivory 1.7 and Upright Pianos were done. Well....That was over 2 months ago, and I havent heard a word. Maybe it wont ever happen?

well, as I said... For pianists, there are currently only two options: (1) akoustik piano (2) full kontakt + library (esp. sampletekk).

[TWB121234]

Soley for the sake of clarity, there are clearly more piano options available for Receptor than Akoustik Piano and Kontakt + library. I and many others are currently using Ivory on Receptor. True Pianos and Pianoteq also work on Receptor. Though they are not all the most current versions (yet?), there is still certainly a wider range and better quality of pianos available for Receptor than any rompler module. Ivory works great on Receptor and the 1.6 installer is available on Plugorama. You can still get the non-ilok code for Receptor on the Synthogy web site (I just reinstalled on my new Receptor 2 a couple of months ago).

[mat123]

Soley for the sake of clarity, there are clearly more piano options available for Receptor than Akoustik Piano and Kontakt + library. I and many others are currently using Ivory on Receptor... You can still get the non-ilok code for Receptor on the Synthogy web site.

I was recently looking for the non-ilok ivory and I didn't find one. Probably I wasn't looking hard enough. Granted, I havn't yet tried ebay, one should be able to get a copy there.

True Pianos and Pianoteq also work on Receptor....

My apologies... I tend to ignore modelled pianos which is probably not fair. I know, some people like playing them. They are just not what I'm looking for.

Though they are not all the most current versions (yet?)...

That's not a problem. I don't need to always have the lastest as an end in itself.

...there is still certainly a wider range and better quality of pianos available for Receptor than any rompler module.

well, that goes without saying. But this would be cold comfort...

[TWB121234]

Hi Mat123,
My box copy of Ivory is the older version, which is probably not available anymore. Perhaps someone knows if purchasing the 1.7 version might still work. As far as I'm aware the Ivory disks are only used to install the library (samples). The 1.6x installer is on Plugorama and is a Muse installer. It might well be possible to buy the new version and install it using the Muse installer rather than the Ivory installer - then just copy the library. I'm sure a call to Muse could confirm this. Anyway good luck - I totally understand the quest for good piano sounds.